Christian/Muslim ThreadsHow Do Christians Read The Quran ?Hi Newseed sent you a msg about the hadith dates ? Ofcourse every christian on this board has terrible reading comprehension ( btw it's spelt incompetence, if you are going to be patronising to every christian on this board by telling us we have terrible reading comprehension, learn to spell, there is a significant gap on a qwerty keyboard from an e to an i that was not a typo). So when you said you were leaving and you would be popping in once a while to stir up things, you really meant you would be in every single day since then just like normal?
Wait a minute for someone who arabic is not their mother tongue and who is not a recognised scholar of the language, and by all implications is nothing more than a student of the language, don't you find it a bit arrogant to imply that you are the greatest arabic speaker and interpreter this side of the atlantic?
Ofcourse they don't understand it, but you do (Maybe you should take a step back and listen to yourself, is your ego this big? you have made serious blunders about teachings in islam in some of your posts, some you amended and some you did not, you are in no position to interpret the koran for the rest of the islamic world, I suspect they will make a laughing stock out of your translations), you are not a born arabic speaker but already you know it more than anybody else who has interpreted the koran, they were all lying and had terrible reading comprehension, every single one of them that is why there are contradictions. This is the muslim mentality, the jews and christian were all lying and corrupted their books, fellow muslims were all lying, incompetent and had terrible reading comprehension, if they are all lying and made terrible grave translational errors, shouldn't you be working night and day from day one producing a PROPER QURAN that is free of all this grave translational errors? I am yet to see a post from you that did not have a patronising comment, all arabic spoken today is based on the quranic arabic, did you forget that islam standardised arabic, something which you even admit to. You only say this because of the serious problems in translating, you gave an analogy that kjv version english standardised the english language, the difference is the rules of english can be applied to the kjv version and you will still comprehend what is being said (even today the message is the same), even though the same can be done with the koran with the rules of arabic what is being said opens up a can of worms, contradictions and blatant errors that needs to be excused by claiming one drivel after another like you just have, that word doesn't really mean cheat, abraham is not a submitter but a submissive, thumma really means after a set period of time...yet the koran is supposed to be revealed in pure simple arabic a child can understand!! Since your arabic is superior to every known koran translator would you care to interpret for us what sura 2:1, sura 13:1 and sura 29:1 says? or did whoever write that have "terrible reading comprehension" Yet in the midst of all of this, you keep regurgitating the muslim argument that Jesus called God allah, it doesn't occur to you that if arabic changed over time what about aramaic what makes you think the aramaic we have access to today is the same as Jesus's time. Let me cut to the chase of what you are trying to imply: Don't you believe allah is the true name of God in any language, arabic, hebrew or aramaic yes or no? Here is what one 'prophet' had to say to aide you in your answer: ""Love the Arabs for three (things): Because I am an Arab, the Qur'an is in Arabic and the language of the people of the paradise is Arabic""
Didn't you say earlier you were greek and you later confessed you hardly knew a word of greek? but prior to that you tried to pass off as 100% jewish ( as opposed to a proselyte which you later confessed to) who is fluent in aramaic, hebrew, arabic and greek, and were going to play chess with everybody in this forum in those languages
. Need I remind you of what it says in the preface of your sahih bukhari hadiths that is utilised by sunnis those same hadiths you chose to reject even though they are sahih: "The Translation of the Meaning of Sahih Al-Bukhari". It is recommended and approved by all Muslim authorities, including the spiritual heads of Mecca and Medina. " Maybe whoever said that had "terrible reading comprehension" The fact that you chose to ignore those hadiths even though the preface says it is incumbent on all muslims shows you are in complete contrast to sunni beliefs, that makes you a dissenting clique aka a sect Didn't you even give me the name of your sect? You don't belong to a sect and you don't believe in sects, but you align yourself with the sunnis as opposed to the shias, maybe at this point I have "terrible reading comprehension". What do you think a sunni imam will say to you if he finds out you reject sahih hadiths?
Seems this is also one of your tactics, let me remind you of one of the rules of debate, whenever you find you have made an error or have been shown to be in error , the decent thing to do is admit to your error, it seems you pick a minute and irrelevant point and make your succeeding post wholely focused on the trivial point like it was the main bone of contention, you were the one that said that there is documentation that jews questioned Mohammed as to his prophethood (you were the one that brought this up, this is your hadith supporting your point of view you will be shown for what you really are if you reject this hadith), that brings us back to Abn allah because he was the one that questioned Mohammed asking him three things to confirm he was a prophet, I asked you if you believe that hadith, by implication since you say there is documentation jews questioned Mohammed about his prophethood you believe that hadith and the contents of that hadith, the answer is a simple yes or no. |
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