Christian/Muslim ThreadsAllah used By Christians and Jews before Islam ?Hola como esta ... Your missing the point Karaite. I am white, greek that is, the propaganda originated from white chrisitan American extremist in there anti Arab campaign to fight against that which they call Arab take over of America in which they fear. Other christians feed into this sickness and become just like them. Its funny how this propaganda started among Christian American Missionaries who dont know a word of Arabic and now the desease has spread to others and other places. Both Arabic Speaking Jews, Chrisitians, and Muslims (Never thought I would ever see this) have launched their campaign together with the same primary objective that such a thing is non sense. . And what makes you think that the YANKIES or the GRINGOS or the PALE FACE or the MODERN AMERICAN CHRISTIAN can? Arab Chrisitans are more closer to their history and heritiage than white Americans are to their own. Thats like a Japanese spreading propaganda about Greeks, their history and language. Typical for White America to re-write the history of Blacks, Asians, and Native American Indians, and now they are trying to do the same with Arabs in general for fear of Arab take over of a land that THEY stole under the banner of CHRISTIANITY. Using what they have been givin them ? Imagine that, but you all cannot , and if you all were so sure of that, produce the proof of the Arabic name they used to refer to G-D in the arabic language prior to islam. You heard it your self what the Christian Arab said about finding the name inscribed on Arab Christian homes dating before islam. The Host of the web site and along with other Arab Christian missionaries have testified to this. Obviously they have investigated the issue to make such bold assertion knowing where heat is comming from ~ their own so called Christian brothers. It is doubtful to you cause it goes agaisnt what you so in whole heart trusted and believed per the propaganda you learnt from. So tell me why didnt Jesus him self use the name Yehovah but instead he used the word "Aalah" in his aramaic mother tongue ? There is not one speck of evidence of him refering to G-D as Yhwh. Please maybe I missed something fill me in if you know. Who do you think verse 5:17 is appealing to? It is addressing the Arab Christian who believed "The Messiah is Allah" of that time. You have to remember most of these were the monophesite Chrisitians whom did not have the FOUR CANNON gospels if you were to asert to. They only had portions of the gospels compare to what you have today. So how do you know the copy of the Gospel they had contained the part for them to pray in the name of Isaa/Yisaa/Yisu'a ? In fact they didnt have a complete copy of the Bible as we have it today for the first complete traslation of the Bible into Arabic is the codex 151 dating back only to the 9 century. Anyhow, If the Arab Christians believed "The Messiah is Allah" when praying to Allah or mentioning His name in their thoughts they were praying to the person of Jesus. The verse (22:40) from the Quran makes it clear that the name Allah was being used By the Arabic Speaking Christians and Jews. Pay close attention to the phrase "....those who were brought out from their homes unjustly except that they said: "Our Lord is Allah ! "..." Those where the first band of Muslims who renounced the idol worship of the pagans and declaired their Lord was Allah in which they were persecuited for in which they were expelled from their homes. Some moon god theory that is if Allah was suppose to be an idol that was the supreme deity to the pagans who persecuited those cause they say Allah is their Lord. The same anomosity shown towards the Muslims by the pagans was the same anomosity held towards the Jews and Christians "....And if Allah did not set some people above others Monastaries, Churches, Synogogues, and Mosques would have been demolished in which Allah's name is being mentioned much..." Do you think all Christians believe as you do, or have always believed as you do ? You are quick to say MODERN ARAB CHRISTIANS to distinguishing them from their past christian heritiage. What make you think your not to them MODERN WESTERN CHRISITANS ? In fact you are. Cause its not their language. Why do you use the words "Jesus" or "G-D" rather than "Yeshu" or "Aalah" Obviously your confusing El-Lah and Al-ilah with each other. How and where did you come up with Al-ilah ? It is transliteration variants: "Bism El-Lah al Rahman al Rahim" and "Bism illah arRahman arRahim" El-Lah and illah is the sufixed reading of the name Allah to "Bism" ~ " in the name of". This is where your going to need knowledge of Arabic before you go for the rebound taking tranliterations to mean some other word. And as again their is NO Arabic Lexcion or dictionary or Arabic Scholars that support the name Allah as being a contraction of al-ilah which is virtually imposible in the arabic language to contract those two words. Also non of your sources that allege such a thing make no reference to arabic Lexicons, but when it comes to Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic words they have the sense to refer to the lexicons of that language. This is pure prejudice bigotry. Do you know about the different arabic dialects ? "al" is also pronounced as "el". Some Arabs pronounce Allah's name as Ellah in which the value of "A" is a week radical subject to a,e, or u pronounciations that can also be droped or can be silent in pronounciation. Such as Abdullah servant of Allah....lillah ~ "for illah (Allah)" used many time in the Quran in the possessive function of the name in which "e" and "i" are transistional |
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