Christian/Muslim ThreadsSexual attrocities in IslamKai Hagbard wrote:
[Deut. 25:11]
When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall have not pity.
This is certainly a negative text, however let me first make it clear that Christians are not obligated to follow the Mosaic social and political law.
The law of Moses was meant for the nation of Israel in a particular era. The laws match the the barbaric tendency of the society, and seeks to guide and control them in that setting.
The passage concerns with the chazaq. The Hebrew word chazaq means to fasten upon, which in ancient days as today was a combat technic for a women or a man to grab a males private parts in order to damage them in say a fight. This practice was famous in the Assyrian society as well, and the Eastern laws did attempt to deal with the matter.
The Mosaic laws enforced the tooth for tooth and eye for eye rule. Thus if you deliberately damaged someones eye, your eye will be damaged in return as a means of captical punishment.
The chazaq practice was meant to cause lasting damage, thus such practice was punished severely. Obviously if a man used the chazaq tactic his own private parts would be damaged. However, if a women used chazaq on someone, there were no private parts to damage as a punishment, instead her hand was cut of.
The context of Deut.25:11 refers to the matter of producing offspring, which fits well to verse 11, in that chazaq would virtually make a man impotent and destroy his capability of producing offspring, thus chazaq came under the eye for an eye rule, and since the man lost possible offspring, the women lost her hand.
Barbaric ofcourse, and quite crazy when considering a typical modern society as today. However, as Christians we are not under the law, and Jesus abrogated the earlier laws such as the eye for an eye (Matthew 5: 38-39). As Christians we follow the new law, the law as prophesized by the earlier prophets which is given by the Holy Spirit (Joel 2) into the heart of every believer.
Sure the ancient laws were strict and barbaric, but in a barbaric society, I do state as my religion does however, that the law was childish, while the new law of the Spirit is a law for the mature. Why Islam goes back to what a Christian would call immaturity, and yet claims to be inferior is a mystery to me.
Peace Kai[/b]
I am not getting desperate Kai, I never asked you to revert to Islam for I believe that only Allah can do that. But you did ask me to convert to Christianity, and that I can't tolerate. No, because I can never believe God is so cruel and obscene as those words of the Testament show. Rejoice with her breast? Larry Flynt could have wrote better.
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