Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe moon god - al-ilahv.s. Liberate says: You been having some bad reading comprehension from since we started. What part didnt you get " and reject Jesus as an imposter and a lier as being a former Jew "........ "as former Jew"..... You may have forgotten Jews do not believe in Jesus. In Judaism Jesus is considered a Lier, and Imposter. It was not until I came to islam that i believed in him as the promissed Messiah to the Jews. The link is a Christian finding in Talmud about Jesus http://watch.pair.com/HRChrist.html In Islam you must believe in Jesus in order to be a Believing Muslim per the conditions in the Quran. Jesus is Honored in Islam and His example is followed per the Teaching of the Quran how he respected and guarded his mother. If you want more go read the Quran, oviously you havent, But yet you claim to have arguements against islam when you your have never Read the Quran before nore the Hadeeths in their perspective. Seems all your studing of islam come from other Christians and their dictations. Doent your Christian websites on Islam provide you with this info ? Why ask me ? You seem to know to know everything about islam. No that is according to your Christian perspective. If islam is false then Jesus is false thats what I expressed up top, in which I would rather go back to Judaism than any other religion. One thing I have noticed abotu Christians as your self that are striving their hardest against islam looking for every avenue there is to get gain upon your opossers you have a bad habbit of editing things : You should post the lexicon correctly : Anointed, anointed one is the prime meaning. The submeanings listed as a,b,c,d,.. are referenced application of the word. The Root "Mashach" of the word Mishyach (Messiah) does not support any other meaning but "one who is anointed" http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=04886 The word is used for even a pagan http://www.studylight.org/isb/bible.cgi ... nt=na&sr=1 Jesus was not the ONLY Messiah, the levitical preists are also called Messiahs . No incrorrect. "messiah" is comon noun like how it is used in your bible the same word used for Jesus. The Link you posted for the Lexicon shows it to you to the bottom passage reference. "The Messiah" <~~~ That is a proper Noun and a designated title. Jesus him self is called "Al-Masih" ~ "The Messiah" in The Quran. The Arabic word "Masih" means "anointed one" coming from the arabic root "masaha" ~ to anoint,. Hmm lets see for a person who have bad reading comprehension you also lack in the meaing of words. In arabic for sister is ~ "ukht" brother is ~ "akh " as used in the Quran. If I call an Arab, Chinese, Pakistani, or European who is muslim my brother (akh) or sister (ukht) does this mean we are biological brother and sister? You obviously are so blind you dont know what idioms are. "O sister of Aaron" ~ Yaa ukhta haaroona". You didnt even have to quote hadeeth. I automatically knew its indicated religious affiliation. This is Jewish idiom expressing her sisterhood of the Aronites. Go ask a Jew about this type of Idiom reference and if they use it among them selves like "brother of levite", which is a honoured rank in Judaism. Anyone that can relate to this would be a Jew.
Note: It was a Christian not a Jew who obviously, like Liberate, are ignorant of Jewish Idioms and Culture. As again if you present a hadeeth that conflicts with Quran it will be bound for rejection cause this we commanded in the Quran.
Talmud ? You read the Talmud before? Ok if you read the Talmud before then what is is the name of the First book in the Talmud and what is Chapter one pertaining to ? I made it easy. You should be able to tell us with know problem if you read the Talmud before. Other wise your statement above is that your guessing and have never read the Talmud before. Go to any Jewish website or to an Orthadox Jew, I would recommend a Rabi instead, and email or ask them or him what does "Sister of Aaron" and "Brother of Levi" in Jewish Idiom meain. And you can go back to all my posts where I used Jesus's Mother's name as "Maryam" which is the Quranic Usage of the name. "Miriam in arabic" there is no such spelling in Arabic. Those are english trasliterated variances of the mother of Jesus. In the Quran it is spelled, meem, raa, yaa, meem,{ mrym } read "Maryam". Do you see that name to have an "h" to the end of it like in your "Maryah" wishfull thinking ? The Quranic "Maryam" is the same as "Miryam" http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=04813 . Learn how to use a dictionary please. And stop trying to turn peaches into apples. The mother of Jesus is called Mary in english which is translated from the greek Mariða = Maria http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3137 that is derived from Miryam in Hebrew http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=4813. Jewish tranlation: Jeremiah 31:32..... not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, saith HaShem. http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Bible/Jeremiah31.html The word "Baal" has two meanings 1) husband or 2) lord The word "Elohim" has two meanings 1) gods or 2) God(and His majesty) The word "almah" has two meanings 1) virgin or 2) young woman (or maiden) If the Hebrew word Baal does not take a dual form in the context of the Hebrew nor a Definite form (the) but and idefinite from meaning it could mean "a husband" or "a lord". When a word is abigious the context defines its meaning. The Jewish translation is more accurate that the Christian translation. Why beat around the bush. When you go to a muslim you preach JESUS IS THE ONLY GOD THE SON OF GOD ! So why wont you go to a Jew with same preaching ? :roll: There you go stuck on Hubal again. Hmm lets see so I guess all the Arab Christians are going to Hell cause they use the Name Alllaah that you assume was an Idol called Hubal. THE ARABIC BIBLE SAYS IN JOHN 3:16 16 لانه هكذا احب الله العالم حتى بذل ابنه 16: Alllaah so loved the word that he gave His only begotten Son...... http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/nt/joh/3.htm The Arabic speaking Christians use this name every day when they go to Church. So. According to you they are praying to Hubal and not GOD so are they going to Hell ? No it wasnt a difficult situation. It was easy. If I didnt know how to read arabic to clearify the horrible translation then YES it would have been a sticky situation, but still yet I would have to Reject that hadeeth if it contradicted the Quran. Thus we are commanded in the Quran Trying to Debate with a person like me about islamic teaching would make it things futile, especially when you dont know how to read arabic. As a matter of fact my sefl and Many other muslims Reject a SAHIH hadeeth that says Muhammad (s.a.w.) married Aisha at 6 years old and consumated the marriage at 9. Many of us reject this hadeeth cause it contradicts the Quran and other Hadeeth which you dont know about. Hmm lets see, which is it ? Did muhammad learn it from one of Glens contemporaries or as you said before : So what is it ? Did he learn from his wives miscarriages or did he learn it from one of Galen's contemporaries ? Also I will my hand on Galens writtings and post them here cause you have a habbit of "COPY AND PASTE" and never go back and read Galen's work for you self. Yes Indeed. One the Quran is in arabic not english. The Translators made alot fo errors in their work and you shoudl read their prefaces. Oops I fogot you dont have Quran you depend on Christian critcs work to learn about Quran. Any Arab or person who reads Arabic would throw that translation in the garbage. Why do you think we encouragage our brothers and sisters to learn arabic ? The Quran I believe in that is the WORD OF ALLLAAH is in Arabic. You need to go debate with a muslim who doesnt speak Arabic. Your Criticism is on a translation, not the Quran, I criticize the translation to. Those men who translated into english their mother tongue was not English. English was a third language for them. Please go read the hisotry of those translators. If you want to defeat islam go learn arabic then come debate. I will even pay for your classes to learn arabic. You should have learn this a long time ago. You should have learnt this long ago about debating with people who speak arabic, When I am coming directly fromteh source and you are coming from something watered down. |
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