Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe moon god - al-ilah
Because I am not like you. Our religion teaches us to have respect for other religions.
The point is, what is actually meant in that verse. Does Baal in the hebrew mean "lord" in association with Baal the idol or does Baal mean husband ? I told you that I agree that that word Baal also meant "to be married". I did not hide this as you are trying to make me look like a lier. We already stablished that Baal meant "lord", and I was honest with the readers of the forum. Christians have translated it as "a husband" the Jewish Tanakh has translated it as "a lord" from the hebrew Baal . Who should we believe ? Jeremiah 31:32..... not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, saith HaShem. http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Bible/Jeremiah31.html I was reading from my Tanakh in Hebrew. The meaning is deciphered by the context "..forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was over them.." YHWH was not the only lord there was another. This is speaking of whenever the Jews broke their covenant with YHWH He became only "a lord" upon them meaning one out many other lords the Jews had. This is speaking of the times when they strayed in the past they took other lords ie gods in which Yhwh was worshiped in association with them as he was " " only among them and not "The Lord". This isnt about what you believe. It is about the concept of Allah in Islamic Teaching and Islamic History. You would be better off going in the direction of Omega he/she stuck to the name of G-D in the Bible. The reality is that Allah was not an idol which would still not matter to you, cause you only identify him by the names you are taught in your Bible and cause we not worship Jesus, so yes indeed we worship two different entities. The Jews dont worship Jesus, so do they worship another entity?. If you was to tell a Jew that you and him worship the same G-D and you say Jesus is G-D he would throw up. The Christian translation changed the meaning of the word from what the context has deciphered it to be from the hebrew. Why dont you go learn some hebrew then we will have a better arguemnet. The Question comes down to this. Being that you dont know hebrew, which translation is correct. The Christians translation " Baal" as "a husband", or the Jewish translation as "a lord" ? This is irrelevant. The Quran nore any Islamic literature can be found using the word "el" to refer to a deity. Also "el" in the Arabic language is the definite article "the" which is an egyptian dialect of "al" Why are you using KJ language here now with "SEED" ? "Man's seed is implanted into the Woman.." Man does not emit one single sperm into a woman, there are billions of sperm. Also the sperm does not implant into a woman. The KJ language "Seed" from the hebrew refers to either descendants or semen. YOu should pay more attention to what you read also : Obviously you are taking "a thing that sojournes and implants" as to be refering Women. The gender of "a thing that sojournes and implants" in Arabic "Qararin Makeen" are Masculine not femine. The Sperm or "Nutfah" in Arabic is Feminine which orginally means " a trickling germ " This "Nutfah" ~ a trickling germ which is femine is placed INTO "Qararin Makeen" ~ something that sojourns and implants which is masculine. The Feminine of "Nutfah" ~ a trickling germ is ascribed to the Feminine genes the sperm carries from the Male host. The male Sperm carries both X and Y chromosomes in which feminine gene is the dominant The Masculine of "Qararin Makeen" ~ a thing that sojourns and implants is ascribed to the masculine gene of the Ovum that carries only one chromosome that is X O really I also read Platos work also. Why dont you quote Aristotle's work that you claim the Quran was influenced by. Aristotle couldnt see Microscopic images. In the time of Aristotle and Plato the telescope and Microscope was not invented until after the 16-17 century. Go look it up. To perform a surgery looking for something that is microscopic 3 mm would be impossible to identify in all that blood gunk and tissue. Yucky ! http://anatomy.med.unsw.edu.au/cbl/embr ... Stages.htm
Hmm Let me help you with the hadith it seem you have a problem of properly posted the location numbers of the hadith Now that is indeed a contradiction to the Quran. But as for me I do not read hadith in english nor the Quran nor the Bible. This is what the hadith says in Arabic of the phrase" "...إن أحدكم يجمع خلقه في بطن أمه أربعين يوما ثم يكون في ذلك علقة مثل ذلك ثم يكون في ذلك مضغة..." ..inna (verily) ahadu (everyone) kum (you all) yujma'u (accumulates) khalqa(creation) hu (it) fee (in) baTni (inside) ummi (mothers) hu (it) arba'ien (fourty days) yawman (days) thumma (and then/later) yakoona (become) fee (in) dzaalika (that) alaqatan (a something that clings) mathlu (likewise) dzaalika (that) thumma (and then/later) yakoona (become) fee (in) mudhghatan ( a thing that is chewed).. http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Disp ... =&Tag=&SP= ..Verily the creation of everyone of you accumulates inside its mother for fourty days and then (later) it becomes in that a thing that clings, Likwise that (thing) then (later) becomes into a chewing... I will maek this clear again to you. I said before Quran supersedes hadith if the hadith contradicts the Quran this means EVEN if ti was SAHIH. However, this is not the case witht he Arabic cause the men who collected the hadith in Arabic when english did not even exist at that. They compared the Aabic with the Arabic of the Quran. Remember "Nutfah" or Sperm is feminine. In the hadith "hu" ~" it " is masculine which is not refering to "Nutfah" which is feminine. The gender here of "hu" is refering to the female Ovum or the "Qararin Makeen" ~ "a thing that sojourns and implants" which is masculine. In the the light of the Quran, the "hu" ~ "it" that is refered to in the Hadith is the "Qararin Makeen" or the Ovum that takes 40 days or 5-6 weeks as a Follicles to be produced as an Ovum within the Ovary before being released from it. http://www.endotext.com/female/female13 ... rame13.htm http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/conten ... 18/1/71/F1 Human ovarian follicle development takes about 70 days to Ovulation when the Ovum has reach full maturity. The first 40 days of this are Primordial follicles stages before reaching the begining stages of an Ovum, or in Quranic Terms a "Qararin Makeen". 30 days of this are Ovum regulated growth phases in which Ovulation starts Errors Mr. Galen Makes Mr Galen obviously didnt study Quran to well. The Quran makes a distinction between the "Nutfah" ~ Sperm and Semen ~ "Maniy" are distinguished in the Quran. Mr Galen errors in saying the Nutfah is the Semen. The Nutfah in the Quran says it comes from the Semen (Maniy). Also I Already showed previous that Nutfah is also identified as "Amshaaj" ~ a germ or germ cell" in the Quran. Another error by Galen is that "alaqah" is from the root "aliqa" meaning to cling, dang, or hang, whih expresses "a thing that clings". The Root of alaqah does not support blood or blood clot. Basim Musallam, Director of the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Cambridge concludes The Quran contradicts Galen's phylosophy. So your arguements are baseless. And I will contect any arabic speaker to this. The termonology that are given to the arabic words are MODERN MEDICAL TERMINOLOGIES.
There is total logical answer to that. IF Allah is all knowing he knows what people will say in the future about the Quran and knows how man will increase in knowledge. The first begining stages are MICROSCOPIC which is beyond human perception. Many of the Scientifical indications are based on the realities of unseen phenomenon which was beyong human comprehension with out sophisticated technology. Make sure you give them a good translation cause your still stuck up on using horrible translations. Of course you woudl do this it meets you needs for you to take advantage of it. |
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