From a few verses in your koran, with the host of volumes of hadith you are unable to show me one clear cut case of any pagan associating hubal as a mediator to get to allah.
Let do this in the reverse. Show me one clear cut case that where it says in hadith that Allah was Hubal ? No speculation, No conjecture. Also you changed the initiative to your Question.
You were given the answer:
Book 030, Hadith Number 4260.
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Narated By Sa'id b. Jubair : I asked Ibn 'Abbas (about the verse relating to intentional homicide in Surat al-Nisa'). He said: When the verse "Those who invoke not with Allah any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred, except for just cause (Qur'an xxv. 6" was revealed, the polytheists of Mecca said: We have killed the soul prohibited by Allah, invoked another god along with Allah for worship, and commited shameful deed. So Allah revealed the verse "unless he repents, beleives and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good. (Qur'an xxv. 70)" This is meant for them. As regards the verse "If a man kills a beleiver intentionally, his recompense is Hell (Quran iv. 93)" he said: If a man knows the command of Islam and intentionally kills a beleiver, his repentance will not be accepted. I then mentioned it to Mujahid. He said: Except the one who was ashamed (of his sin).
Also I showed from Quran where it was commanded to SHUN Idolotry, what was Hubal? An Idol.
'O you (i.e. Muhammad)! wrapped up in garments!' Arise and warn, and magnify your Lord (Allah), and your garments (of righteousness) be purified and shun idolotry.' (74.1-5)
"Tabari VI:70 “In the beginning of the Messenger’s prophetic mission he used to spend a month every year in religious retreat on Hira. This was part of the practice of Tahannuth in which the Quraysh used to engage during the Jahiliyyah. Tahannuth means self-justification.’”"
Tahannuth from that hadith means self justification
Hmm interesting some added words in the hadeeth that are not in the original source. The original source of Tabari is from Sahih Muslim :
'A'ishah, the wife of Allah's Messenger may Allah be pleased with her, reported:
The first (form) with which was started the revelation to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was the true vision in sleep. And he did not see any vision but it came out like the bright gleam of dawn. Then, solitude became dear to him and he used to seclude himself in the Cave of Hira', where he would engage in tahannuth (and that is a worship for a number of nights)......"
http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/displa ... =eng&ID=93
Also you last post said :
Tabari VI:67 “Aisha reported: ‘Solitude became dear to Muhammad and he used to seclude himself in the cave of Hira where he would engage in the Tahannuth worship for a number of nights before returning to Khadija and getting provisions for a like period, till truth came upon him while he was in a cave. The first form of revelation was a true vision in sleep. He did not see any vision but it came like the break of dawn.’”
Why the change in words ? Where did "...Tahannuth means self-justification...’" come from ? What are you trying to do here make a new version of hadith , this is not the Bible. The word tahannuth does not mean that
http://alqamoos.sakhr.com/idrisidic_1.a ... a%cd%e4%cb . You need to stop trying to alter the text of the hadeeth. Whats so funny is you dont even know what collection of Hadeth Tabari is quoting from. I posted the original source where Tabari is quoting.
First of all I would like everyone to know who Tabari is :
Tabari
(Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari) (täbä´rē) , c.839—c.923, Arab historian and commentator. The name Tabari was given him because he was born in Tabaristan, Persia. He traveled widely in Syria and Egypt, setting finally in Baghdad. He was admired for his erudition, his memory, and his industry. He wrote two great works, a commentary on the Qur'an and Annals of the Apostles and the Kings.
The commentary became a standard from which later commentators drew. The annals are an attempt at recounting universal history from the creation to 915. Condensed from an even longer work, they are not a continuous narrative but contain differing versions of the same story and are thus a prime collection of Arabic sources. Tabari also taught law.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/en ... y?id=46030
Tabari drew his work from other commentators work. Such commentors are Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. The hadith you (liberate) are quoted from Tabari is part of the work of Sahih Muslims.
I think this draws the line between you and I (Liberate). I think there is more than sufficient information to let people make up there own minds on this issue. I do not guide, Alllaah does.
Verily is it the same to those who disbelieve that you warn them or do not warn them they will not believe ? Alllaah has sealed a covering upon their hearts, and their Hearing, and upon their sight...(Quran 2:6)