Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe moon god - al-ilah :: To KaiTo Kai Well lets see...When G-D sent his prophets into the world, did he just sent them with words to preach to a people? No. With confirmation of the authentication of the prophethood of the messenger he assisted the prophets with SIGNS, MIRACLES, WONDERS,something for the people to fathom with, something conceivable but yet beyond comprehension, unnatural to human conception. For example, we learn that Moses was assisted with 9 great signs, and more, that was a manifestation of the power of G-D. These signs were Hard Core proofs and evidence of which the message that Moses spoke to Pharoah and his people was indeed the truth. These miracles challenged the predominant science of their time which was Magic, sorcery, and witchcraft etc in which the miracles of Moses contested with, and prevailed over. David, was also given an amazing sign, He was a man of strength whom slew Goliath with one blow with a single rock in a sling. David was given amazing strength and abilities which was unnatural for a normal human being. Soloman his son was give command over the elements of the earth and nature. These miracles challenged the predominant science of their time which was Warfare, Fighting Skills, and using nature as a stratagem of war against they enemies etc in which the miracles of David and Soloman contested with, and prevailed over. We come now to our beloved Messiah Jesus Son of Maryam, He was assisted with wonders by G-D of healing the blind, raising the dead, curing the sick, speaking from the time of infancy to protect his mother from being stoned for alleged fornication, and brought to life something that was made out of mud. These miracles challenged the predominant science of their time which was doctors and physicians etc in which the miracles of Jesus contested with, and prevailed over. And Now finally, another man came who claimed to be a prophet of G-D who came with one Miracle and that was a miracle of words and in those words there was intergrated many other miracles at a time when Poetry and Orators were revered even in which the most pious and religious men, or brave fighters were not held is such esteem with. This miracle(s) challenged the predominant science of their time which was Poetry and Orators etc in which the miracles (The Quran) of Muhammad contested with, and prevailed over. There is a pattern here. G-D rarely in some cases and the majority of time did not repeat the same miraculous proof more than once whereas the majority of the Prophets were sent with Unique Miracles. Why send the same miracle over and over when the former people rejected it anyhow ? Now before Muhammad, where is the proof that these Prophets did such miracles ? As we turn the pages it is Just History of claims what such and such did. But how do we know that this actually happened ? Where is the physical proof it happened to convince the people of our time ? We have archeology and prophecies to ascert to of the Bible and Tanakh and the aclaimed numerology of the Bible. This is identified as G-D's signiture for the seekers of truth in the future or for those who may enquire. However there is a slight problem with this signiture, in the light of science of our time the signiture is ambiguos. I will be the first to say it, and to acknowledge it, that yes indeed the Bible has prophecies that have been fulfilled and are being fulfilled. An there are profound scientifical statements of unseen realities which was beyond human conception at that time. BUT, there are prophecies that are ambigious and vague in which Christians and Jews do not agree with, each has its on interpretation of what a particular prophecy means. The Jews in fact have an advantage and a better understanding of the Scripture cause there studies are not limited and confined alone to translations that do not convey the entire meaning from the Hebrew or the Greek due to the FACT you cannot translate from one language into another language word for word, thus you lose meaning, in which the translation is subject to error and the interpretation of the translator which could be biased. MY OPINION is that most of the interpretation given to the bible by chrisitans, which allude to error that is TRADITIONAL, are major errors in translations that Chritians so heartly put their faith in. What are claimed to be contradiction, I would admit, are contradictions in translations, in which the Hebrew or greek clearifies. But there are some cases, which are minority, that not even the texts themselves cannot justify which are clear contradictions, which occured and demonstrate different points of views by the writters, which loses dependability of being divine. So in MY OPINION based on a Scientifical approach to the Bible, Christianity and Judaism, there becomes doubt as to the authenticity of the Bible as being the total WORD FOR WORD OF G-D; Cause in some cases we have a clear signiture of being divine related as to coming from G-D, and in other cases we find a clear signiture of men. Where does the Quran stand in all this ? What is this so called miracle,this HARD CORE PROOF that the Quran possesses. The Quran, just like the Bible, has an archeological, prophetic, and scientific nature to ascert to it and a numerological system that gives us again a signiture of G-D for the seekers of truth in the future or for those who may enquire. But there is more, there is something about the composition and character of the words in the Quran in which I gave an example on the last forum page http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic ... c&start=20 post Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:34 pm. The grammar is perfect with its gender discriptive, the composition of its words, and oration is intergrated in rythmic hyme. This is humanly impossible to do with the character of Arabic but here we find this nature in the Quran whereas also each verse is made up of six words which are broken down below, then they numerologically encrease to seven please count. [91] wa (By) al (the) shamsi (Sun) wa (and) dhuHaa (appearance) haa (it) = 6 [91] wa (By) al (the) qamari (moon) idzaa (when) talaa (follows) haa (it) = 6 [91] wa (By) al (the) nahaari (Day) idzaa (when) jallaa (reveals) haa (it) = 6 [91] wa (By) al (the) layli (night) idzaa (when) yaghshaa (conceals) haa (it) = 6 [91] wa (By) al (the) samaa'i (Sky) wa (and) maa (what) banaa (erected) haa (it) = 6 [91] wa (By) al (the) ardhi (earth) wa (and) maa (what) TaHaa (hurls)haa (it) = 7 [91] wa (and) nafsi (soul) wa (and) maa (what) sawwaa (proportioned)haa (it) = 6 [91] fa (then) al (the) hama (infused) haa (it) fujoora (inquity) haa (it) wa (and) taqwaa (piety) haa (it) = 9 [91] = 5 [91] = 6 [91] = 5 [91] = 5 [91] = 11 [91] = 18 [91] = 5 This is the sequence of the composition of the words. As the numbers in crease the words are harder in speach that affects the rythmicization to a higher pitch in sound. This is through out the Quran, then to add, it exaplians scientific phenomenon such as the "hurling of the earth" which is a fact that the earth is being hurled in space. I already meantioned other scientific phenomenon in the Quran such as the Embryology: Unlike Christianity, muslims do not regard translations of the Quran as divine or inspired, which put more dependability and stringintness on the Arabic text its self. Truth is depending on what a person consideres REALITY on their own Logical bases. What may be logical to me may not be logical to you which all lies on perception. "... elevate islam above everything else ?" I dont really know hot to answer that. In what particular manner do you mean by "elevate above everything else" ? |
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