Tell me the names of some early Christian groups that believed what the Quran says about Isa.
Hearing your same conjecture gets boring fast.
I don't know what Trinitarians called them. It'd be under the broad "heretics, burn them" umbrella.
Not all Jews beacme Christians, not all Christians became Muslims.
Obviously this group would still have some survivors today, but they don't because they never existed.
If they had the same view of Jesus (pbuh) as Muslims do, and stuck to his teachings, then no, they wouldn't still exist today.
Ahhh! You don't know!
There is NO proof that such a group ever did exist!
I want to see evidence.
Well if you want evidence read the book I've provided you. It even gives the names of famous people (who followed these beliefs) and their writings. You can go from there can't you?
Your beliefs are closer to theirs than any Christian group.
Probably.
What are you talking about?
You have a problem with believing that Scripture can tell you what other Prophets said or did. You don't believe the Qur'an can tell you what Jesus (pbuh) said but have no problem in the OT telling you what Lot, Noah, Adam, Abraham said…I don't see your logic.
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midday to mid-afternoon
mid-afternoon to sunset
sunset to midnight
midnight to dawn
Is this correct?
Partially,
It's
~sunrise
midday to mid-afternoon
mid-afternoon to before sunset
sunset+ ~1.5 hours
night to a few hours before dawn
How do the banks stay in business, you tell me why they wouldn't fail without charging interest.
I don't care about the darn banks, but we need them still.
If you're complaining that usurious banks would go out of business so therefore they should continue to charge interest then that is faulty reasoning. We need banks, but we don't need them to charge interest.
Learn soon that the perfect society of God CAN NOTand WILL NOT exist in this world. Only a society ruled by God Himself will be purely Godly.
No set of religious laws will achieve that.
That's your own opinion.
About interest, that money is payed to the government for transfer fees, paying the workers that sort though our billions of checks, and just alot of other things. Really, the publically owned banks don't make money.
Privately owned banks pay taxes, basically those interests become taxes they pay to the FED that gives them the money.
It's a whole system, you gotta trust me on that.
Haha, bro I used to be a commerce major. This is the weakest argument I've seen thus far in defense of usurious banks. Interest is how banks make money.
Oh wait now! Taxes are worse than interest.
We pay loads more in taxes than interest.
more people are getting fat 'n rich of taxes (*cough* democrats), than any interest.
Both aren't things we can escape, interest by credit card companies is more encountered than bank loan interest.
But taxes aren't forbidden by Scripture, interest is. You can't avoid taxes then so be it. But you can do many things to avoid interest.
Taxes make life hard for the poor man, but we are under Caesar here and we render unto Caesar the things that belong to Caesar, and render unto God the things that are God's.
We must pay taxes or out government will fail. That's reality.
That's true for taxes but not interest. Try paying your credit card bills on time.
Okay man, ask me something else.
When should abortion be allowed if ever?
Peace bro