Christian/Muslim ThreadsMuhammed in the Aramaic BibleMy friend, you are still clutching at your straws, why don't you provide a drop of evidence to support your ancient Gospel of Barnabas theory? You don't sound like you have read it either, because if you had really read it you would have seen that the alleged gospel is contradicting Quran as well. Why are you not reading the links I have provided instead of repeating historically inaccurate theories? It is written in the Middle Ages and it purports to be written by an Apostle of Jesus, what apostle of Jesus was alive in medieval times? You also didn't respond to my question as to where (location) this alleged gospel was supposedly found 92 years before the birth of Muhammad? The Gospel of Barnabas makes naive errors in geography, it has Barnabas sailing to land-locked Nazareth, had Jesus born and current politics of Palestine, does not realize that 'Christ' means 'anointed.' 'Jesus confessed and said the truth, "I am not the Messiah"' (''Barnabas, ch. 42) 'Then said the priest: "How shall the Messiah be called?" {Jesus answered} "Muhammed is his blessed name" ' (ch. 97). Since when Muhammad is the Messiah? Don't be naive please! Like Quran says; read; http://www.muslimhope.com/forgeryoftheg ... rnabas.htm http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/gbar/ http://www.fact-index.com/g/go/gospel_of_barnabas.html http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-judas-g ... rnabas.htm Deuteronomy 18:15,18 is probably the passage in the Bible which is most often by Muslims thought to be a prophecy about Muhammad. Let us therefore look at this verse very carefully. In verse 15 Moses is speaking, in verse 18 the Lord himself is speaking through Moses. 15 The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him. ... 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. It is urged (by Muslims) that the promised prophet was not to rise among the Israelites but among their "brothers" the Ishmaelites (compare Genesis 25:9,18); that no such prophet did rise among the Israelites (Deut. 34:10); that Muhammad was like Moses in many points, e.g., both were brought up in their enemies' houses, appeared among idolaters, were at first rejected by their own people and afterwards accepted by them, each gave a law, fled from their enemies (Moses to Midian, Muhammad to Medinah, a name of a similar meaning), marched to battle against their enemies, wrought miracles, and enabled their followers after their own decease to conquer Palestine. In reply it may be said that Deut. 34:10 refers only to the time at which it was written, and the word "since" may be said to imply the expectation, that such a prophet would arise "in Israel", not outside. The words "from the midst of thee" are almost certainly genuine, though even without them the meaning is clear. It is true that Ishmael was Isaac's half-brother: but, if the Ishmaelites may be called the brethren of Israel, assuredly, the Israelite tribes may more correctly be called one another's brethren. (Compare[1], Surah 7:83, "their brother Shu'aib.") Israelites are called one another's brethren in this very book of Deuteronomy, e.g., in chapters 3:18; 15:7; 17:15; 24:14. In ch. 17:15 we have an exactly parallel passage in reference to the appointment of a king: "one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee. "Most, if not all, the kingdoms of Europe are ruled by kings who belong to families which are or were originally foreig;: but in all history we never hear of the Israelites appointing over themselves a foreigner as king. They should have gone to the Ishmaelites for their kings, if the Muslim explanation of "from among their brethren" in Deut. 18:18 is correct. They did not do so, because they understood their own language. Who at the present day among Muslims, if told to summon one of his "brethren" to receive some important post, would conclude that members of his own family were excluded, and that he must find a man whose ancestors had, hundreds of years before, been kindred to his own? Moreover, the Taurat clearly says that no prophet was to be expected from Ishmael, for God's covenant was made with Isaac, not with him (Gen. 17:18-21; 21:10-12). The Qur'an also in several places speaks of the prophetic office as having been entrusted to Isaac's seed (Surah 29:27; Surah 45:15). The promised prophet was to be sent unto Israel: but Muhammad professed to be sent to the Arabs among whom he was born. As for a likeness to Moses, we learn from Deut. 34:10-12, that the two points in which the Israelites expected the coming prophet to resemble Moses were: (I) personal knowledge of God, and (2) mighty works. As regards the former, is there not a tradition that Muhammad said, "We have not known Thee in the truth of Thy knowledge (or 'as Thou shouldest be known')"? With reference to mighty works,[2] the Qur'an tells us that Muhammad was not[3] given the power of working miracles (Surah 17:61: see Baidawi's and Abbasi's commentaries: Surahs 2:112; 6:37,57,109; 7:202; 10:21; 13:8,30; 29:49,50). The points of resemblance between Moses and Muhammad which Muslims adduce might be found in Musailamah and in Mani for the most part, but do not prove that these men were prophets. Finally, God Himself has explained in the Gospel that this prophecy referred to Christ, not to Muhammad (compare Deut. 18:15,19, "Unto Him ye shall hearken," etc., with Matt. 17:5; see also Mark 9:2, and Luke 9:35). Jesus explains that this and other passages in the Taurat refer to Himself (John 5:46: see Gen. 12:3; 26:4; 18:18; 22:18; 28:14). He was descended from Judah (Matt. 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38; Heb. 7:14), was born in Israel, and spent almost all His life among the Jews, and sent His disciples in the first place to the latter (Matt. 10:6) and only secondly to the Gentiles (Luke 24:47; Matt. 28:18-20). In Acts 3:25,26, the prophecy we are considering is definitely referred to Christ. www.answering-islam.org [/quote] “which bible is that? The corrupt one that corrupt Jews wrote that you muslims slam all around?”[/quote] I haven't said such thing. All you prved was a false and wishful interpretation which doesn't hold water according to biblical exegesis. It is Jesus Christ, not Muhammad. Easy way of quitting, wouldn't you say? Of course he is going to say that because these theories are ridiculous, it only takes ignorant tribal minds to believe in such claims. Why did Jews refuse to believe in Muhammad? Because they already had their Scripture. In order to show his own people, Muhammad had to chose a "convincing way" to explain why others refused to believe.
And gave it to Muhammad in writing and Muhammad signed it? You don't even know your own history my friend... Noone said Muhammad wrote it himself. Prove it. Don't bother because it takes biblical exegesis to understand the Bible, not islamic... Millions of times it has been explained that Deut. 18 is not about Muhammad. Go ahead... Simply, even you admit it can be DONE!!! What relevancy does the number of visits have here? Joseph Smith, prophet mormons got visits from a similar angel... But guess what Bible says... Galatians 1 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. You sound like you want out because you keep repeating that you have proven your point. Your point has been made and it is false unfortunately. Well we all believe that Ishmael is a descendant of Abraham, so we are not going to get punished ... God speed to you... best wishes regarding your studies if you are doing any... |
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