Christian/Muslim ThreadsDeuteronomy 18:18 ... Who Is The Prophet?Sorry Christians, I cant help butting my head into your mess , so i wont stop my self. Has i said I will refutte the points of Scorpion, so i will do the honours. I am so funny :roll: The verse sas "Like unto Moses", for Jesus to be like Moses he also have to OFFER to take the sins of ISRAEL. while jesus TOOK the sins of MANKIND, thats not like Moses, thats unlike Moses. Good start heh! ops: Elijah was also transfigured, so on the basis of this similarity he is also a candidate for like Moses, not only Jesus, read matthew the refference you gave. For Jesus to be like Moses he should have come from Egypt not gone there and come back, on top how many other people went to and came back from egypt, and some only came from Egypt to Israel, does that mean they are like Moses, this point of comming and going to egypt is childish, find one better. Moses was brought up by a hired mother, someone who gets paid for taking care of babies (thats biblical version, Islamic says mother of Moses was taking care of Moses in his childhood) Muhammed was also sent to the beduin tribes where he stayed, and his Daih (or Nurse Mother's name was Halimah Sadia), therefore Moses and Muhammed both where like each other, Jesus was the odd one out. Secondly these similarities are pointless, talk about the fundamentle similarities, like Moses Muhammed both prophets Jesus god, yours are like, Muhamed slept one hour less then Moses therefore Muhammed is not like Moses, thats ridiculious, and a very shalow reasoning. Muhammed was also a miracle worker, his miracle is the Quran, and he performed many miracles. but Miracles prove nothing, phiroah's magician performed miracles they made sticks into snakes, thats a miracle, what makes you think that its not a miracle, on the face of it, Moses, Jesus and the Sorcers where doing nothing different all of them where breaking the laws of on which the universe is governed by, only one gets the title or miracle the other magic. ON this basis the Fir-aun's Magicians are also like Moses like Jesus, and like Muhammed, miracles prove nothing, they are not unique to Jesus and Moses, many others have performed them. Muhammed was also a shepard, read something good for once. Moses was not a good shepard therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed was a shepard, therefore he is like Moses Oh yeah! talk about the fundamental similarities that are mentioned by the Muslim they are the fundamental similarities not what you are talking about. Oh you will be so amazed at the end of this that yu will say i hear and i confirm that Jesus is not like Moses. MIllions lived in there infant age in Egypt not only Jesus, tell me something unique about Jesus which he dont share with someone else, oops :roll: thats all, "no more mud for the pig to get dirty in." (that means no more excuses) For him to be like Moses his face should glow and then fade away not stay shining like sun, thats unlike Moses, you are so good in refuting your self this is the easiest reffutation i have written against a missionary., For him to be like Moses he has to do what Moses did in exatly the same way, you cant have two same pictures, one blakandwhite will the other and say they are exactly the same. Vow! thats absolutly unique to Jesus and Moses, millions of Jews/muslims/Christians grew up in the reign of Hitler, Stalin, Sadam, while there leaders thought they will revolt against theree leader, and history is full of such examples kings living in fear that their subjects might revolt against him. that was a tough one i have to confess ops: . YOu have literally millions of people who have the same mystery like Jesus, they dont know who there father is, Europe and america is full of bastard children, the woman takes her pleasure and thats all one night stand is over, she never sees that man again, and the voila! we have a child born without a father, this Mystery is everyday thing in your countries, yet thats still uniqe to Jessu and Moses. Moses brought a MORAL LAW to his people from God, Muhammed brought a MORAL LAW to his people from God so did, thats unique to them two no other person on the face of earth other then them two. Jesus came to confirm the Law not to destroy it, so he brought nothing new that was significantly different from the law of Moses. For Jesus to be like Moses he would have to be adopted by Herod, one king adopts, the other king should also adopt Jesus. he is not like MOses. Note that the significant thing in this is not the time or years or days or months, but the number 40 is the number, Muhammed was 40 years of age when he started to receive his revelation of Quran, and before this age he was being prepared for his job of prophethood. I think i am not sure that Muhammed also fasted for 40 days, but i think he did meditate for 40 days also, but this is not sure. Yes he did, one of his campanion was blind has he got older he couldnt look-after himself, beign blind that made it worse for him so he asked that if Rasool-allah could pray for him to get his sight back, Muhammed said cant you bear it for few more years, he said no i cant, and started to cry, then Rasool-allah put his hand on his eyes and read the first surah of the Quran and he was cured a Jew copied the same when he heard this, but when he failed he asked why didnt it work, Rasool-allah said, did you read it has i read it (meaning, did you read the surah with love and sincirity, and truthfullness has i did). There are literaly hudereds of miracle which he performed but Muslims dont pay attention to them for few reason i have given above, that anybody could do them even a evil sorcer, he could heal people. Plus those miracles have no value today, because each age had its miracle, his time was poetry so the quran was poetically perfect, in the time of Moses Magic was the standard for judging the truth, so Moses was given the power to perofm miracles to over power the sorcers, in the time of Jesus the Medicine was a standard for judging the truth, so Allah gave Jesus the power to heal the sick without medicine, and in THIS age the science is the standard to judge he truth by so the Miracle of Muhammed is the Quran which answers all AGES. In the Era of debates teh Quran was ahead, in the era of poetry the Quran was ahead and in the era of science quran is ahead, \Quran is a miracle of miracles. Miracles of Moses Jesus cant be done again but the Miracle of Muhammed is demonstrated again and again in every new era, thas a real miracle for you. So did Muhammed. He controled the clouds with Allahs permission he went from one place to another the clouds would cover him so he dont get sun burn, when he made the prayer for rain it came, when he prayed for crops thhey grew, A jew gave some date seeds to muhammed to grow them instantly, muhamemd was abut to do it when the jew asked him to give them back, he did, the jew burnt them to ashes and then gave them back and said well now do it, so he did, those date trees grew in his site from the ashes and when the friute was on them those dates where without seeds, because they where without the seeds in the first place, those dates are called AJWAH DATES. He controlled the everything with the will of Allah. For Jesus to be like Moses he has to part the red sea or any sea, again he didnt. Muhammed used the fire to cook his meals, there is no similiarity with what Muhammed did nor Jesus did, nor what Moses did, so i dont see how that is like Moses For Jesus to be like Moses he has to be servant not Son, unless the son means a servant and you misudnerstood it to mean only-sexually-produced son of god. For Jesus to be like Moses he has to bring water out of rock, No! No! I just was beginning to like this, i feel so stupid exposing your stupidity, even a kid can do that. So the moutain was also prominant in thelife of Muhamed, he went to meditate in the moutain, he received his first revelation on a moutain, caled Irah, and Soor, other to hills which are significant Safa and Marwa. Thats angel more then Moses for him to be like moses one angel please. Look dude its getting ridiculous doinng this, even a kid can reffute your claims, just have a little sense Ali |
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