Hitch Posted: Friday, July 26 2002 11:49 pm
Post subject: Read Matt. ch. 13
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Read Matt. ch. 13 again,fowls are are satan and his demons and look at the parables of the sowers especially,the fowls swoop down and take the seed which was sown."
We might wonder how leavend bread was prescribed for peace offerings, peace being a good thing and all. But you''re right about those foul fowls,,,especially the white doves...
Hitch
Jeffrey Wallace Posted: Friday, July 26 2002 11:51 pm
Post subject: Bighouse has pegged the kingdom parables
User Location: BR, LA
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Hitch (and others): Bighouse has pegged the kingdom parables of Matt. ch. 13.
Consider that Jesus explained two of them (vs 18-23, 37-43). If the focus would have changed wouldn't our Lord have said so. Especially since the disciples understood the other parables without explaination (v 51).
Leavened bread was prescibed for peace offerings in Lev. 7:13. All other instances of peace offerings is represented by animal sacrifice and/or the fat thereof. As for Lev 7:13; "Leaven, commonly used at social feasts, was permitted in the thank offering because this was the spontaneous expression of devotion from lives that were not entirely rid of sin and evil in every case(v 13). It taught that everything eaten is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer. (1Tim. 4:4-5; 1Cor. 10:23, 30) and that food which enters the stomach does not defile a man (Mt. 15:11)." --Dake commentary on Lev. 7:13
As for the 'foul fowls', certainly the dove denotes the Holy Spirit, but here again if we keep the train of thought being taught by the Lord in Matt. 13, these particular birds must be evil.
As for Strongs ref. 3772; it could mean --- the sky, right?
Consider this. The kingdom parables are taught as a warning to the Church. Dovetail this with the letters to the churches in Rev. and the endtime teaching on false teachers and doctrine. The church will be and has been infultrated by false doctine. Now reread the kingdom parables and consider what the Lord is warning. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." v.9.
Hitch Location Posted: Friday, July 26 2002 11:52 pm
Post subject: CI Scofield
User Location: PRO
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'Hitch (and others): Bighouse has pegged the kingdom parables of Matt. ch. 13. '
Following this logic the sum of the historical workings of the HS on earth is abject failure as the leaven affects the 'whole lump'. Of course this means that Christ's efforts at building the Temple of 'living stones' is also a failure, since all are of the 'leaven 'as well.
I dont recognize this puny Holy Spirit nor the weak defeated Christ you present. I do reconize the foul stench of a dead lawyer in the person of CI Scofield who was an originator of this doctrine that is 180 degrees opposed to Christ's teachings.
BTW gents, even Pentecost of DTS fame has reversed the failed official (read Scofield Bible) position on the parables specifically the Mustard Seed and the Leaven. I'll provide the quotes,before and after , if you like.
Take care
Hitch
Jeffrey Wallace Posted: Friday, July 26 2002 11:53 pm
Post subject: Leaven
User Location: BR, LA
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Do you not agree that the whole lump IS affected? Where is the power of the New Testament Church? The world has so filled our churches that we are no longer pure.
"Following this logic the sum of the historical workings of the HS on earth is abject failure as the leaven affects the 'whole lump'."
This statement doesn't even make sense. The leaven does not affect the Holy Spirit. He is pure.
"I dont recognize this puny Holy Spirit nor the weak defeated Christ you present."
Where exactly have I presented this? I never said, nor did I infer this. Do not put words in my mouth to further your agenda. Read again the parable of the wheat and tares. There runs deceit throughout the kingdom. That is the message of all 7 of these parables.
As far as the rest of your comments: who even mentioned Scofield anyway????????? and to what doctrine do you refer??????????????? I haven't discussed anything doctrinal. yet!
We must become unified. Christ is coming back for a purified Church, and the current glutonous, American, Health, Wealth, Confess me a BMW because my Lexus has a flat tire, Church AIN'T IT!!!
Our arrogance is staggering.
Yes, leaven does pollute Christ's church. If the all the puffed up 'worship me' preachers. Paul's letters are full of warnings about these false teachers spouting their false doctrines. We must read the Word for what it says. If we choose to be willfully blind, following the spewed venom of these false prophets, we are beyond hope.
In Christ Jeffrey
George Posted: Sunday, July 28 2002 9:01 pm
Post subject: Speaking of churches and Revelation
User Location: USA
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Imagine another 144,000 jews like Pauls running around the world preaching the Gospel. Wow is all I can say. We need some of them in the USA now!
144,000 jews doing the job the church hasn't done!
KEN MAYNARD Posted: Saturday, November 9 2002 7:21 am
Post subject: MUSTARD SEED
User Location: N.C.
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I WAS TOLD THAT A MUSTARD PLANT IS ONE OF THE FEW PLANTS THAT WON'T CROSS POLLENATE WITH ANYTHING ELSE. IT THAT TRUE?
ANTHONY HOPPER Posted: Sunday, December 8 2002 11:23 pm
Post subject: true
User Location: los angeles, ca.
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the smallest seed;becomes the largest tree.
Shrena Posted: Sunday, December 29 2002 3:42 am
Post subject: The seed of gift
User Location: Asia
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This is what I understand about the Mustard Seed.
The mustard seed is given and planted in us and the kingdom of God is upon us (the Holy Spirit). We are the body of Christ preach good news to the poor (sow unbeliever). The seed will only grow with the WORD of God (knowledge and wisdom thru Holy Spirit).
The seed is the Holy Spirit obviously is the greatest so brings salvation to the people where they will find peace and joy in Christ Lord Jesus.
John 15:5
5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
http://www.web-ministry.com/religious/parables/mustardseed/