Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readPeace and God bless all, Exscuse me, but HE was born a Jewish.What practices are you saying HE didn't follow? ILJ/Y said>Quote: How does that answer assassination for poetry?Also which prophets were stoned to death for "lies", prognostication? Some were killed because a king etc...didn't like what they were teaching, but what lie are you speaking about? H_G said> I take HIS true Revelation seriousley, not the attempted forgery by Muhmmad IMHO.So much for free speech huh?So let's get this straight, you condone beheading people becuase of negative poetry?Yet you said earlier in this thread that you were against people being oppressed?Yeah they propbably were reading there Torah, and showed how far away from their Books teachings Muhmmad was, so bang, 'Off with their heads'!Pretty sick reasoning. ILJ/Y said>Quote: First they asked for a guard from Piolate to make sure the body wasn't removed etc...and HIS followers claim HE was risen.Which we know happened.Secondly the Roman soldiers were experts in killing, and if they had failed to see Jesus sentence through, they would have been killed.Thus, the spear throught the ribs and heart. H_G said> Then it would show the Qu'ran as false, since it admits Jesus was sinless.What I mean is that if HE was and IS sinless, yet HE was not really crucified, then HE would have been a willing participant in decieving others, and letting lies about HIMSELF be told.Frankly the whole discussion would have been moot if the Jews simply showed the body etc...yet that is exactly what didn't happen.HE was seen by HIS disciples, and showed the where the nails had "pierced" HIM etc...Why would God deceive anyone about it?HE IS truth, not a lier, so be careful what you attribute HIM. By the way, talk about poems songs etc...Tell us about the songs Palestinian children are taught at very young ages, and who knows where else it is taught, that "Arabs are beloved, and Jews are dogs?!I know people who grew up there are say they were absolutley taught that as children, and that everything in their everyday lives was and is about hating Jews etc... ILJ/Y said>Quote: Why don't we hear Imams in Saudi and other places shouting this when Christians are beheaded in their country?Why no out cry for the Southern Sudanese? I am not laying that at your feet, but at the feet of those that are teachers of Islam and in the Mecca. H_G said>[qiote]Who said Saudi Arabia's government represented Islam in practice? Do I look at the Bible belt and find places where gays were tied to white picket fences and beaten to death and then coyly ask "is this what Christianity is?" Or do I look at the legalization of pornography and prostitution in Europe and call THAT "Christianity". So you say Saudia Arabia/Mecca does not have anytrhing to do with advocating the laws of Islam? The things you descibed are totally against what Jesus did and taught, so that point is moot as well, because if someone says they follow Jesus or accpet HIM as their Messiah, then goes against HIS teachings and the way HE lived, then they are a mockery to themselves, not Jesus, nor HIS words Suadia is very much the advocate of Shiria law and Islamic laws in general, come on now. H_G said> Allow me to educate you on this.In Saudia Arabia it is illegal to have a Christian Bible, to convert to Christianity.It is illegal to build a Church or synagogue there, and there are none.If a Muslim is caught for converting to Christianity, it is well known fact that they are taken into a public area etc...and beheaded!!! It's a big public event, much like in Afghanistan where they showed them shooting a woman in the head with an ak47 at point blank range in the soccer field. So much for religious tolerance huh?Or "no compulsion in religion"!!! Please don't go to S.A. and say they don't advocate laws of Islam ILJ/Y said>Quote: I am a creationist as well. H_G said> Thanks for the link.I'll check it out soon. ILJ/Y said>Quote: How do we know how Jesus lived accept from the Bible. H_G said> HIS actions yes, from the Bible we know he was sinless, which is unmatched, also from HIS teachings, that HE was "much more than a prophet." Frankly, the texts that you say are alleged, are far earlier than Islam's texts, so IMHO that rules out any authority of the Qu'ran to dictate to us what is authentic, and what is not. Have a blessed weekend ILJ/Y |
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