Airman74 wrote:The reason gay people call you Homophobic (I always hated that word- as its stated in such a blanket manor), is equal to and the opposite to your claim against them. The only reason aggression continues is that each is a life-support unto the other. If aggression is removed from one end the other will disappear- nothing can exist without its opposite. If one stopped and the other continued it would be like yelling at a rock. The words would be empty.
Reread what you have written below (it’s a smart way to learn more about yourself- offered in all due respect) When ones own logic to conflicts a person unknowingly deceives themselves. Your use of "Gods truth" is used as a scapegoat discarding your responsibility in the judgments you lay on others, done in Gods name. Ignoring the conflict, forcing judgment in a wish to change others according to your understanding of "Gods Truth", to follow you, but your unwilling to accept responsibility to your claim. (as clear in your first two sentences)
Well, at least you couch your analysis of my stance in kinder terms than most of my critics.
Leviticus 18:22
22 'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. NAS
Leviticus 20:13
13 'If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. NAS
Romans 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. NAS
1 Corinthians 6:9
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, NAS
1 Timothy 1:10
10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, NAS
These are the only verses in the Bible that address same gender sexual relationships. There are a couple others that many (not all) Christians like to refer to; however these are the only direct references to gay sexual relationships.
I now accept these as truth. You seem to think I did not spend some time researching sexual orientation in psychology and science and if this is true you are incorrect. Prior to 1973 and the removal of homosexuality from the DSM III there was a lot of anecdotal evidence that sexual orientation can be traced to environment and personality. Since 1973 even more research has been done. You can read this for yourself at
National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH);
Journal of Homosexuality;
Dr. Throckmorton, and etc. I have also kept current on molecular genetics studies.
Now what other truths are contained in the Bible? How about “love your neighbor as yourself” and who is your neighbor? What does it mean to love your neighbor?
Rom 13:8-10
8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. 9 For this, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; love therefore is the fulfillment of the law. NAS
Who is your neighbor?
Luke 10:29-37
29 But wishing to justify himself, he said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?" 30 Jesus replied and said, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho; and he fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went off leaving him half dead. 31 "And by chance a certain priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32 "And likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 "But a certain Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, 34 and came to him, and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 "And on the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return, I will repay you.' 36 "Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?" 37 And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." And Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."
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So what is my truth? And have I ceased investigating and asking questions? The answer is my truth for interpersonal relationships is found in the Bible; a document that has stood the test of time. Do I understand all that the Bible teaches? No, that is why I still study it.
My neighbor includes the gay men I volunteer with to support the Western Colorado Aids Project, which helps those infected with HIV who do not have insurance or the money to get adequate medical care. I don’t judge them or preach to them, I simply live my truth in word and deed. I am instructed by God’s truth to preach the Gospel and by the use of His word correct, instruct, and reprove other Christians. If you have visited my website I state on my home page that the contents are offensive to non-Christians so they have the option to continue reading or leave. This is a Christian message board so visitors have the option of reading what we believe or staying away.
My personal experience has demonstrated to me that God’s word is truth; a truth that I try to live by. I don’t judge the lives of others; however I can and do judge their behavior. Read my guestbook and you will read entries from both sides of this issue including men and women who thank me for helping them in their journey to escape a lifestyle they abhor for many reasons, including the gay community itself.
You do the same when you judge a murderer, a thief, or any other behavior you find offensive or wrong.
You can read the whole article here-
http://www.innerself.com/Spirituality/religionless.htm
"There is no need to believe in anything — that is the fundamental of science. That is the scientific approach to reality: do not believe, inquire. The moment you believe, inquiry stops. Keep your mind open — neither believe nor disbelieve. Just remain alert and search and doubt everything until you come to a point which is indubitable — that's what truth is. You cannot doubt it. It is not a question of believing in it, it is a totally different phenomenon. It is so much a certainty, overwhelming you so much, that there is no way to doubt it." Osho
Schools teach evolution and the Big Bang as empirical fact, even though neither of these concepts has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. If you accept either concept as “truth” then you have ceased “inquiry” and believe something based on a faith in science. All men have faith in something. Those who deny the existance of God have faith in their own intellect and ability to think or apply logic. Faith is a part of the life of every man.