We have a saying for this, especially for muslims, skullcap is blown, the bald head is exposed
I haven't made anything personal buddy, that is your assumption, although I didn't leave you alone, and I won't until you cease trolling, I don't know why are you so bothered? Can't you keep calm and answer the questions posed, instead of putting a show? I am letting you to stay on the forums, despite the trolling, running in circles, because you are setting a good muslim example for our readers. Have you acted your age so you are asking others to do so? No!
Uh huh... too bad some Muslims don't wear a skull cap... myself included.
Yes. You have made this personal. You think you have the audacity to interrogate me on how 'muslim' I am then tell me that I am not living up to what your standard of 'muslim' is. I know my spiritual beliefs and how they differ from yours. You claim that I should be Christian since I did an in-depth study of the Bible. Well I guess that many of the Christians who have studied the Qur'an in-depth should be Muslim, but they arent. I am not looking to set any example here. I am in no position of responsibility in this forum and I feel no obligation to act a certain way except for those in the TOS. Frankly, I don't care if I get kicked from the forum. It makes no difference to me.
What you failed to respond was how much of your works will get you in paradise of Allah? I didn't ask you what is required! I already know what it required, how much of it will guarantee you heaven?
you say you haven't made this personal but this is a personal question. It's too early to tell in my life, but I pray every day and do my best to abide by God's Will.
Why are you blaming your Sunday School teachers now buddy? What did they do? They go with the cirriculum they are given. It is you who is doing the actual study! Your depth study didn't reveal you the differences between Christian Church and Mormon Church?? Shame on you! I can see how you studied the Bible, by just looking at your webpage! Sorry I don't tolerate fake people!
Who said I blamed my sunday school teacher? Did I say that the lady that tought us is stupid because she didn't go over denominations? Don't see that anywhere. Also, my BIBLE Study course studied the BIBLE. NOT Christianity as a whole. My webpage is unchanged conversation, I haven't lost a one on one yet. The first schmuck thought he was a 'warrior' and never even answered me straight... He kept thinking I had the time or resources to find fifty blind people and a Holy Ghost minister.
God instituted matrimony when in the garden of Eden He made a wife for man, brought her to him, and blessed their union to be one flesh. Monogamy is implicit in the Bible account of bringing Adam and Eve together, since God created only one wife for Adam. Adam, whose mind was perfectly tuned to the mind of the Creator before sin entered in, understood that monogamy was God’s will for marriage too.
“And Adam said, this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” Genesis 2:23-24
Polygamy is prohibited by Scripture and all Christian churches. Monogamous and lifelong marriage is the only form of marriage recognized by Jesus as instituted by God for all times. Our Lord Jesus gives us the complete Word on this subject Himself;
“The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto Him, Why did Moses command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.” Matthew 19:3-8
Although the Bible records many instances of polygamous marriage in the Old Testament, it does not thereby sanction polygamy as being an acceptable practice for that time. As we shall see, it is always shown in a bad light. And it was expressly forbidden in the Levitical Law that was given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai.
Remember, Abraham was a dutiful servant of God and had many wives. I still do not see the verse that says 'marry only one' Polygamy is allowed in Islam but it is reccomended to only marry one. Muhammad was given permission to marry more than the maximum four wives, to aid in relations with other empires.
It doesn't matter what website it is, that article is in MUSEUM today! Do you think muslim sites would want to expose it? Don't be so naive!
Da'wah: Literally means "call", and in this sense it refers to calling to the Truth through preaching and propagation.
I don't care if that letter is in a museum or burning in a fire! It does not prove your point that Islam was violently spread. You can conquer someone without violence. In Sun Tzu's art of war, it is said the greatest art of battle is to subdue your enemy without violence. Muslim empires may have spread influence of their nation by force, but nobody was forced into Islam. The Ottoman Turks are a good example of this.
I know because I read my Bible unlike others who profess doing the same but fail to create answers to their own fallacies. God stepped on the Earth, became Jesus, the son of man, and that same GOD is still the savior. You replied to your own question/claim/allegation.
Well, if Jesus was God, why did he not proclaim it? If Jesus was God, Why did God not say that the virgin would bear God? Why did God not tell Moses to believe in the coming of God in physical form?
I have every reason to believe you are, unfortunately, I am not talking about good and bad deeds here, I am talking about the worth of your works to GOD!
If you mean physical works such as writing papers or building something, I know those are worthless. Everything will be crumbled into atoms on the Day of Judgement.
Our difference, we have understood that we are worthless, so we chose the way, the truth and the life offered to us. You are just as worthless as I am but you chose to work towards your salvation without knowing how much of works will save you, in the meantime conveniently forgetting how worthless you are for GOD and rebellious not to choose the salvation he offered to you. Simple as that!
Until you show me bold faced proof that Jesus declares himself equal to or he declares himself God, I will stick with the Qur'an and Islam. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say that he is God. Even Biblical experts admit this!
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I suppose the mediator is Jesus. Jesus is long gone buddy.
His body is gone... Read Matthew 28:20 And, behold, I am with you all the days until the end of the world
Now you've dug your own trap. If Jesus is a mediator between man and God, then Jesus cannot be God, for if you pray to Jesus, as God, then Jesus cannot be a mediator. You have just contradicted yourself.
Jews can still be saved by obeying the law, they don't want grace so be it. They still believe the FATHER OF JESUS! There is no Muhammad in the this picture, in God's convenant with people! Educate yourself and read Galatians 1:6-9! Muhammad was a good hearted man who loved his nation most and wanted to unite 'em so much, he had been deceived, he didn't know, resulting his followers to be deceived. He was a man and a sinful one, and lost his control after achieving the power. You keep repeating his conjectures!
No Muhammad? Deut. 18:18 reveals a distinct prophecy. Every study Bible links Jesus with prophecies other than Deut. 18:18. So, Where did the Prophet go? for if Jesus is the Prophet, he cannot be the Christ. If he is the Christ, he cannot be the Prophet. The Jews asked John the baptist three questions about the Christ [jesus] Elijah, and the Prophet. Who could the prophet be? Muhammad.
Now where did you read that? Osama's website?
The aramaic word is alaha for Ilah, a general word for god. He CALLED God ABBA, which is Father. Enough Said!
Actually, in the Bible/Qur'an debate section.
My sins are paid in FULL. I have received the Holy Spirit, I am not proud but humble, I am a child of God! You have no proof that Jesus was a prophet except the conjectures you read in the Quran.
Your sins are paid in full, by Jesus right? Not by your own tears but by Jesus' blood. Humble? riiiiight. If you are a child of God, that would make you a son of God. What is the difference from your claim to Jesus'? Proof that Jesus was a prophet? even you guys admit it!!! you guys tell us that Jesus was not only a prophet, but the Christ and God. Nobody can see the face of God and live, yet Jesus was there. So, either the Father is lying, or you are.
Pray with all your heart but know if you are really forgiven not. Now that is SAD!
Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Thought your years as a Muslim would teach you that :roll:
Yea yea, read John 3:16-20 get your memory refreshed! You don't even know your fate, what if you are destined to hell!?!?! Sorry, God must have created you to send you to hell???
If I go to Hell, so be it. I can't argue with God.
Because your mind has been clouded under stress and anger! Tell me you are not angry. I am not making fun of you, I am asking you how much of your BEST is enough to satisfy GOD so he can accept you? What if your good scales don't weigh good enough? Will God show you compassion at the last moment?
God gives everyone a final chance to seek forgiveness on Judgement Day.
Ok which one? The ones that muslims can't decide authentic or not?
Do you know the system for authenticating haidiths? its pretty long and rigorous...
You are completely OFF the discussion, put the anger aside. You anger showing because you are not understanding what you are reading. What are your movements give God during namaz? Why are you a slave? Slaves don't have freedoms buddy. Does he need your submission? Seriously, A perfect God sitting who created the universe, who has everything he has, and he needs your submission, he gains something from you?!?!?!
Alright, then let me ask you. Do you pray five times daily? do you give annual charity? do you? I am a slave because I willingly sunmitted my will to GOD. it was my choice and I have never looked back. God gave us free will to choose our paths. God already knows which choices we will make, but He does not intervene, for that is the beauty of free will. He does not need my submission, for God does not need anything. My submission is a choice.
Oh my, no wonder why with that understanding of Bible you strayed and got duped. What Jesus meant there was, man cannot live on bread alone, HE NEEDS THE WORD OF GOD! Oh man! Muslim fasting is different from what we do. You starve yourself the entire day. Christian fasting has a spiritual meaning, it can be a few hours, or a day, however God leads. You don't hurt yourself, you drink as you like, it is for the golry of God, not physical stress on to you! Fasting is as the muslims say.. a way to focus wholly on God. Problem is.. you focus on the glory of fasting.. and not the reason behind it. Fast and you are blessed.. don't fast properly and you sin. Fasting is agreement with God that there is spiritual warfare going on and it needs something special from man to help break the bonds. Like the man with the evil spirit.. Jesus said "this kind only comes out by prayer AND fasting"
I have the word of God. It is called the Qur'an and it is upstairs on my night table. Fasting is to remind us of God and of those poorer and less fortunate. There are people in this world that go through an entire day without food. Unlike Christian fasting, which may last between meals [a mere few hours], our fasting lasts from sunrise to sunset and is not limited to food or water. All sexual relations are also prohibited during the fast. We also pray during fasting.... Just like Jesus said to do.
And tawafing 7 times around the black idol house and stoning the devil is not? You even use the name CHRIST but don't know the meaning behind it! We don't celebrate the pagan values on that certain days, We CELEBRATE Christ. It doesn't matter what day it is.
How are these rites pagan? Early Christians practiced throwing rocks at blocks of wood, the wood representing the devil. Christ: Annointed One. You still celebrate pagan holidays, even with the cheap excuse of not practicing the rites. The Ka'bah was rebuilt by Abraham in worship of the ONE TRUE GOD. Not for pagan puropses.
You believe wrong, sorry! Jesus is Lord.
Lord, or mediator?
Ask yourself why would GOD want you to go to hell and not tell you? What did you do wrong? You don't know, when cornered all muslims say God knows best, pass the ball to God, what is best in that if YOU ARE GOING TO HELL! Look in the mirror and ask yourself, do I want to go to hell? I want to know
I think it is quite obvious that I do not want to go to Hell. Remember that God will tell us where we are headed on the Day of Judgement. He will then give us a chance to repent if needed.
Because you were never interested in one. Now the answer has been given, and I am sure most Christians will confirm this one. You are dodging your way out. It is sad to see that YOU ARE RECRUITED BY ISLAM. Can't you see that? You are so young, imams muslim friends, masjids...
Recruited for??? There is no more need for violence, and I came on my own free will. Every Muslim that I have met has been like a brother or sister to me.
Same Muhammad didn't know what Allah would do with him, he couldn't tell where he was going. I don't know what hadith to read, kindly show me. Muhammad also is no authority to tell anyone that his sins are forgiven.
The same Jesus that you claim to be God didn't know when Judgement Day was.
There is NO problem, because arabic myhtology stories, fables, jinni all that stuff repacked (Quran) do not exist! She is in hades!
Even in Christianity you have Judgement Day, where all souls are judged. Sorry, but nobody is in Hell or Heaven yet.