ArchivedMATTHEW 1:23, ISAIAH 7:11, a prophecy fulfilled?Like I already said: "Also, the child whom you refer to did not fulfill the prophecy because he was not called Immanuel. Earlier on you said Christ did not fulfill the sign because He was not called Immanuel. Indeed he was. Just read the gospels. But why do you claim the child in Isaiah is fulfillment of the sign when he was never called Immanuel? Atleast Christ was called Immanuel. Christ being called Immanuel does not only have to be fulfilled in scripture. People all over the Church refer to Christ as Immanuel. There are hyms which refer to Christ as Immanuel. So the prophecy is about Christ because people today (even in my church) refer to Christ as Immanuel. " First off, the word can literally mean virgin as proved to you earlier on. Hence, the prophecy can be towards the Messiah only. Secondly, if this is not a dual prophecy, the child in Isaiah 8 has nothing to do with the sign in Isaiah 7. I personally think this is not a dual prophecy, but you have not proven that it isn't. All you have shown is your opinion that the prophecy refers to the child in Isaiah 8, but you have not disproven that the child is not Christ. Hence, you have not proven that there is no dual prophecy. Also, the sign was not given to Ahaz. Ahaz did not live long enough to see deliverance. In fact, Judah recieved destruction not deliverance. Isaiah did not say the Immanuel prophecy had anything to do with the deliverance of Judah. James D Price: Isaiah did not associate that deliverance with the Immanuel prophecy, but with Hezekiah's faith, obedience, and prayer. Finally, the deliverance of Judah did not come in the days of the child born in Isaiah 8, therefore he is not "Immanuel." The verse which says ".....the wealth of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria" does not mean Judah will be delivered. And it is a well known fact that Judah was not delivered during that time. No born child was called "Immanuel" in Isaiah. This prophecy was fulfilled in Christ. Isaiah 8:8 does not refer to the child who was born before. The Messiah was to be born in Judeah (another fulfilled prophecy) and that's what that verse is saying. New John Gill Exposition>shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel Judea, called Immanuel's land, because he was to be born there, and converse and die there; and this is particularly mentioned, to show that, though this land should be overrun by the Assyrians, yet not destroyed, until Immanuel, the son of the virgin, was born here. |
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