ArchivedJESUS IS GOD!!!I never claimed I understand the nature of God. I'm only defending God the way He revealed Himself. You're the one saying God did not reveal Himself as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. But He clearly did.
Fair enough. Like I said, no prophet ever said to forsake your family (if they have to) in order to follow them. No prophet was given ALL power in heaven and on earth. These are things which Christ claimed. You see, but you percieve not. Read what I said after the words you quoted from me above. What was my argument? You do not understand. He who has ears let him hear. Did I already not mention that you were going to say others were called sons of God? Read my argument and understand. You're missing the point. You're too emotional when reading my arguments. You're quick to speak, but not slow to listen. LOL. All judgement is done by God? Christ is given all the power? It is only a contradiction if Christ is not God. And like Christians say, 'Christ is God in the flesh.' The letters also imply that Christ is God in the flesh. It is in the letters where the Father calls the Son "God." In both the Bible and the Qu'ran, there are passages in which God speaks to Himself. If God can speak to Himself (man can speak to themselves also), how then can God the Son not speak to God the Father. Now, you claim not to fully understand the nature of God, but here you go again arguing against it. As the scripture says, Christ is God in the flesh but humbled Himself and became a servant. Also, there are examples of Trinities which have been given over and over. Matter is solid, liquid and gas. Matter is one, but has three different representations. Why then do you keep saying God is seperated into two, when it is explained a million times that Christians believe in one God manifested in three persons? Also, if you read the scriptures, Christ says He did not come to condemn the world or judge it. How is this a contradiction to Christ being God? If you read carefully, Christ is talking about His first coming. He did not first come to earth to judge. He first came to die for the sins of man. Judgement will be in His second coming. So there is no contradiction. As for power being given to Christ, this is the relationship between God the Father and God the Son. You cannot recieve the Father unless you recieve the Son, that is why Christ is considered to be God in the flesh, because if you see Him, you see the Father. Christ is not called God in the flesh because He has power away from the Father. Christ is called God in the flesh because when you see Him, you see the Father and in order to get to the Father, you must go through Him. The only difference is, when Christ referred to God as His Father, He declared the Father and said He was the only way to the Father and the only one who has SEEN the Father. I don't see other Jews who refer to God as their father make the same claims as Christ does. Yes, but look at the difference. Though God's people were refered to as "gods" they did not claim to have all power in heaven and earth. And instead of being sacrificed for man's sins, they GAVE sacrifices. Christ on the other hand has all power and was GIVEN as a sacrifice. So when God's people is referred to as "gods" it is not the same as when Christ is refered to as the Son of God. Christ is divine, God's people are not. There is no proof of them being added. The Alexandrian text-type is about 10% of all the mauscripts and the Byzantine text-type is about 90% of all the manuscripts. The Byzantine text supports the verse in which it says pray in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Why do you say this verse is added when 90% of the manuscripts support it?! And even if you take out that verse, what changes? Nothing! Because the Alexandrian text-types still support the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as being God. 98% of ALL the manuscripts agree. We all know there are thousands more mauscripts for the Holy Bible than the Qu'ran. Now, the Qu'ran contains textual variants also, but even with those variants, it does not have more mauscript evidence as the Holy Bible. James White says, "The reality is that the amount of variation between the two most extremely different manuscripts of the New Testament would not fundamentally altar the message of the Scriptures! I make this statement (1) fully aware of the wide range of textual variants in the New Testament, and (2) painfully aware of the strong attacks upon those who have made similar statements in the past." If the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is God and God is Saviour, then heresy does not exist. Simple response.
Again you are misinterpreting the scripture. As you can see, in Leviticus 9:7 and in other parts of the law (available upon request) God commands that they should give burnt offerings and sacrifices. This was not God's intention however. God's intention was for them to obey His voice. But since they sinned against God, offerings and sacrifices were given for atonement of sin. When they started to give offerings and sacrifices they did it and neglected the more important things. They were hypocritical and praised God from the outside, but their hearts were far from Him. This is why eventhough Saul gave an offering and sacrifice, Samuel rebuked Him (1 Samuel 15:22), because Saul did not obey the voice of the Lord. God never said not to give sacrifices and offerings, but to consider priorities. The Bible is obviously not referring to itself. Yes, during that time they changed the meanings of God's laws (if you even read the New Testament, Christ rebukes the Pharisees many times for misrepresenting God's law), but that does not mean the Bible itself was corrupt by the hands of the scribes. Archaeological and prophetic evidences alone refutes that. Aslo, again you misinterpret the meaning. If you read for example, the KJV, it says in that verse that the pen of the scribes is in vain. In other words, eventhough some of the scribes changed the law, it had no effect. Their attempt was in vain. So again, please do not apply this verse to the Bible. Ironically, your attempt(s) to argue against us are in vain. Again, the same response can be given for this passage as the one I gave earlier. Offerings and sacrifices were given to God without a person's heart being with God. There was nothing wrong with them giving sacrifices, but they were giving it while they were not really following God. Their sacrifices were not perfect or from the heart. This is yet another reason why Christ had to die as a sacrifice, because His sacrifice was perfect. And God only accepts perfection. All are similar. Again, you have to look at the overall teachings of the New Testament. Also, Christ humbled Himself and became a servant eventhough he thought it not roberry to be equal with God, like the scriptures say. Now you say the scriptures are corrupted, but you have no evidence of that. The only thing you claim as "evidence" is your misunderstanding/misinterpretation of the scriptures. Matthew 28:18>And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 22:42-45>Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? (Also see Mark 12, Luke 20) John 14:9>Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? etc, etc, etc. Too bad this is your saying and not God's. |
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