ArchivedJESUS IS GOD!!!Hi Alpha, hope you doing fine man, That is kinda weird actually, Jesus and God are the same. This sounds like as if If I want to get to God I have to go through God first. you don't make sense here. If the father is greater than Jesus as you said then the son could not be God in no way. Seeing that you are making a distinction between them both could only mean these two are not the same, or have the same nature, if they had the same nature, then none should be greater than the other. Could you shouw me please where I did that? Prophet Muhammad said the same thing about himself and God. We have to love all prophets and God more than our parents. There is nothing unique in what you said. The word Son of God here is mixed for the simple reason. Greeces did not look at it the same way the Jews did. Those terms were used loosley in the OT. When Jesus called himself the son of God as a Jewish would only mean he is a prophet. and Being a son is not being God himself. You may claim that it was said he is the ONLY son, but you have to remember that God called many his sons, calling Jesus his ONLY son after 2000 years of revealation of calling other prophets and the Jew "MY SONS" then backing up and saying that :"Oh no...Actually I have only one son and he is Jesus" is kinda contradictory. Actually, my thoughts are derived directly of what Jesus said. It is obvious that Greeces who were truly unaware of the Jewish nature and culture interpreted their own way. When Jesus said : I do nothing of myself, this can only mean he is not God WHen Jesus said : Father is greater than I , this could only mean he is saying he isn't God. Because if he was actually God, then no such statements would come out of his mouth. One can read the whole gospels and see that they only wanted to kill him because Jesus mocked them all. John 11 47 So the chief priests and the Pharisees convened the Sanhedrin and said, "What are we going to do? This man is performing many signs. 48 If we leave him alone, all will believe in him, and the Romans will come 10 and take away both our land and our nation." 49 But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, 11 said to them, "You know nothing, 50 nor do you consider that it is better for you that one man should die instead of the people, so that the whole nation may not perish." And many more examples could be shown also. Hi...Jesus never referred to the trinity, the only passage is forged as affirmed by the oldest manuscripts. One more example of forged stuff? The gospel opens with the phrase, "the beginning of the gospel of Joshua Messiah the son of God. The phrase ‘the son of God' does not appear in the earliest versions of the manuscript. I love mistranslated verses, Here is the correct one: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel And I asked for OT refernces calling Jesus God or that God will come here to earth. None you will find I'm sure. |
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