ArchivedJESUS IS GOD!!!Whether it be referring to Himself as the Son of God, or referring to the Psalms of David in which David calls Him Lord (and don't say many were called lords because I already refuted that--and you swayed the conversation in another way), Christ obviously declares to be divine. Finally, after Christ resurrected He clealy says Himself "ALL power is given unto me in heaven and on earth." If you want to say the Father gave him that power and that the Father is greater than Jesus, then fine. But you cannot get to the Father unless you accept the Son and His sacrifice. Let's take a look at a situation in which Christ was worshipped. But first, let's take your translation of worship into account. Now, in John 9:35-38 a man was worshipping Jesus. You say the man was bowing to Jesus right? But why was he "bowing" to Jesus? Jesus declared to be the Son of God, that's why he was "bowing" to Jesus. But wait a minute...you said that's how people paid respect to one another in that culture, by bowing. If someone was the Son of God and you bowed to Him like you bowed to any other person to show respect, that's disrespectful. The man obviously was not only bowing to Jesus, but worshipping Him because He claimed to be the Son of God. Christ Himself (since you are so concerned with His words) said if you love your mother or father more than Him, then you are not worthy of Him. Therefore, if you were to bow to Christ like you bow to any other person, you are not worthy of Him. Christ was worshipped in the true sense of the word. Since you don't care what others say about Jesus, I won't care what you say about Jesus. Since you claim He is not God in the flesh, I do not care, because it is your words. Like Scorpion said, did Jesus say He wasn't God? Did Jesus say do not worship me? According to your logic, if He did not say those exact words then He has to be God. And if you say otherwise, who cares because it is your words. Did you read on in those passages you posted? In both those passages Christ was referring to the Father [John 5:32 is suppose to be John 1:18]. You cannot recieve the Father unless you recieve the sacrifice of the Son. The Son is the only way to the Father. These are things Jesus Himself said. And Christ said no one has seen God at anytime, but the Son has declared him. Christ was referring to the Father because when you read the same verse in John 1:18, Jesus makes it clear that he is referring to the Father, and when you read John 6:46 He makes it clear that no one has seen the Father except for him. None of the other prophets whom got killed in the OT claimed to be the only begotten Son of God. The Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because of His claims of divinity. In those above verses and all the other verses in the gospels in which you find Jesus saying God, Jesus is referring to the Father. I'm sure you've heard of the Trinity. There are a few ways someone can prophesy. The first is if God tells a prophet and the prophet declares the prophecy to others. The second, is if someone prophecies not knowing that they are prophecying. For an example, check out Pharaoh in Exodus 10:28-29, and check out Matthew 27:25. Let me give you another example, if I say Christ will return I am prophesying. I did not start the prophecy but it is still a prophecy. Does that make me a prophet? I think not. Genesis 3:14-15>And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Romans 16:20>The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. 1 John 3:8>The one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. The devil bruising the heal of Christ refers to Christ's sufferings in the flesh. The serpant can only bruise at the heal because it can't move around like other creatures can. Christ bruising the head of the serpant refers to His death on the cross and conquering death. It was the devil who was a muderer from the beginning as Christ said (John 8:44). |
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