Anyway scorp, what you fail to realize is that this prophecy accured 700 years before Jesus.
Ahaz was asking for a sign that it will show him he will defeat his enemies, so Isiaih told him that the sign is that a a boy will be born.
Now you tell me, how stupid would this sound if Isiaih is actually talking about Jesus?
Ahaz is asking for a sign that will be fullfilled so that he knows he will defeat them, and the sign was fullfilled when you read the rest of the chapter and that boy was born.
This will sound dumb is Isiaih was like: umm...your sign king Ahaz is that in 700 years, Jesus will be born, that is the sign that shows you will defeat your enemies..... :roll:
come on now, no one can be this dumb and believe this is about Jesus (pbuh), read the whole story, it's just so clear.
read below again:
You are a king ,your country is being invaded by the strongest empire on earth and you know you have no chance against it.
Then comes a prophet and tell you this: " God has given you a sign and that sign is that a virgin will be born in 800 hundred years and she will have a son"
Put yourself in this king's position and see how ridiculous this will sound like. You are worried about being eliminate and someone tells you about what will happen in 800 years. No way Isaiah is talking about Jesus because the purpose of his visit is to inform Ahaz that Judah will not be eliminated.
About the name : Emmanuel
If we are to use the logic of your outstanding christian scholars, then there are many Gods beside Jesus in the bible, that is if Jesus was ever called Emmanuel.
1)Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".
2)Joshua means "Yahweh Saves".
I guess Jesus was supposed to be named Joshua according to your scholars
3)
Eliab means "my God is Father". This refutes that Jesus was the first to call God his father, this is a common Jewish name
4)Michael means "
who is like God". Surprise...lmao.
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