ArchivedHow could you spread so much hate about gays?
I didn't post that website to say it is not a psychiatric disorder. We already know that by APAs website and you did say: I meant later in what was later in there. When it said, " When the DSM-III was published in 1980 homosexuality was not included although "ego dystonic homosexuality" was recognized as a category for people "whose sexual interests are directed primarily toward people of the same sex and who are either disturbed by, in conflict with, or wish to change their sexual orientation." When the DSM-III was revised in 1987, "ego dystonic homosexuality" was deleted as a separate diagnostic entity because "In the United States, almost all people who are homosexual first go through a phase in which their homosexuality is ego dystonic." (DSM-III-R) " Thus taking there guidlines of changing sexual orientation out of the DSM. Like you were saying they had in there.
I'm only showing the truth about christianity and homosexuality. To stop people from living by things that are untrue. The Bible has been used to take away the rights of minorities all through out history and has proven to be only humans interpretation. I'm sorry if your too closeminded to except it. I can only show you the path, you have to walk down it. Also I already showed you this twice, I'm not against people choosing to want to change there orientation if they want to and are not pressured by religious organizations or society or don't have self hating issues. There is no reason to want to change, it is a form of love but different strokes for different folks is what I say. In that case it would be a choice in taste. Like apples and oranges. In that case that would also involve Straights that want to be Gay or Bi. As long as they are not doing it for unhealthy reasons or them changing would be unhealthy to them. That is not proof, the cause of it spreading has many possiblities.
No, reasons that it doesn't work and is unhealthy is another possibility. No societies have ever been proven to fall because the were gay. That is so absurd. If society only followed time honored traditions we would still be living in caves, we would still have slaves and women wouldn't have any rights. Society evolves and takes away the traditions that are wrong.
This holds no relevance because there is no reason why it would have social consequences. Except for people being closeminded.
Okay here is an article from the APA website itself, http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbpolicy/ego.html Being gay has nothing to do with getting aids. Lesbians are the lowest canidates for aids out of all of the orientations. Straight people get it, so do babies being breast fed, people that share blood by cuts or somthing like that and any other way the bodily fluids of an infected person can be given to another body. The only reason of Aids being sexually transmitted is through uncareful sex, that is letting your partners bodily fluids enter your body. That matters no matter what body you in or orientation you are. Also you can't get infected unless your partner is first infected because its a spread disease. How Aids is Spread http://www.jhuccp.org/pr/h9/h9boxes.stm#hiv HIV is carried in body fluids. The most important are semen, blood, breastmilk, and vaginal fluid (246, 558). HIV is spread primarily through sexual contact that passes body fluids from one person to another. It also can be spread by contaminated blood or blood products, by hypodermic needles contaminated with such blood, and from an infected woman to her child during pregnancy, childbirth, or breastfeeding. A person may have HIV for years before any symptoms appear. Although people may not know that they are infected, and they do not look or feel sick, they still can pass HIV to others. For physiological reasons, a woman is more likely to contract HIV/AIDS sexually from an infected man than a woman is to infect a man (23, 129, 394). The percentage of HIV-positive adults who are women has risen from 25% estimated in 1990 to 43% in late 1997 and appears to be still rising (12, 266). HIV also has spread to children born to infected mothers, a trend that is eroding previous gains in child survival. The majority of infections occur during or close to birth; in developing countries breastfeeding accounts for an estimated one-third of HIV transmission from mother to child (269). There is no reason to believe they are guided under professional pride. Just because they oppose your view does not mean that. The have done proffesional studies on it. Here is another APA page that talks about Reparative therapy http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbpolicy/orient.html Other organizations that talk about it: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/reptherapy.pdf http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_changing.html http://www.psych.org/public_info/gaylesbianbisexualissues22701.pdf APA Position Statements Pertinent to Gay and Lesbian Issues POSITION STATEMENTS ON THERAPIES FOCUSED ON ATTEMPTS TOCHANGE SEXUAL ORIENTATION (“REPARATIVE” OR “CONVERSION” THERAPIES) The Board of Trustees of the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973 after reviewing evidence that it was not a mental disorder. In 1987, ego-dystonic homosexuality was not included in the DSM-IIIR after a similar review. The American Psychiatric Association does not currently have a formal position statement on treatments that attempt to change a person’s sexual orientation, also known as Areparative or conversion therapy. There is an APA 1997 Fact Sheet on Homosexual and Bisexual Issues, which states that Athere is no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of Areparative therapy as a treatment to change one’s sexual orientation. The potential risks of Areparative therapy are great; including depression, anxiety and selfdestructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient. Many patients who have undergone reparative therapy relate that they were inaccurately told that homosexuals are lonely, unhappy individuals who never achieve acceptance or satisfaction. The possibility that the person might achieve happiness and satisfying interpersonal relationships as a gay man or lesbian is not presented, nor are alternative approaches to dealing with the effects of societal stigmatization discussed. The American Psychiatric Association recognizes that in the course of ongoing psychiatric treatment, there may be appropriate clinical indications for attempting to change sexual behaviors. Several major professional organizations, including the American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, have all made statements against Areparative therapy because of concerns for the harm caused to patients. The American Psychiatric Association has already taken clear stands against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Therefore, the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as reparative or conversion therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his or her homosexual orientation. In the past, defining homosexuality as an illness buttressed society’s moral opprobrium of same-sex relationships (2). In the current social climate, claiming homosexuality is a mental disorder stems from efforts to discredit the growing social acceptance of homosexuality as a normal variant of human sexuality. Consequently, the issue of changing sexual orientation has become highly politicized. The integration of gays and lesbians into the mainstream of American society is opposed by those who fear that such integration is morally wrong and harmful to the social fabric. The political and moral debates surrounding this issue have obscured the scientific data by calling into question the motives and even the character of individuals on both sides of the issue. This document attempts to shed some light on this heated issue. The validity, efficacy and ethics of clinical attempts to change an individual’s sexual orientation have been challenged (3,4,5,6). To date, there are no scientifically rigorous outcome studies to determine either the actual efficacy or harm of “reparative” treatments. There is sparse scientific data about selection criteria, risks versus benefits of the treatment, and long-term outcomes of “reparative” therapies. The literature consists of anecdotal reports of individuals who have claimed to change, people who claim that attempts to change were harmful to them, and others who claimed to have changed and then later recanted those claims (7,8,9). Although there is little scientific data about the patients who have undergone these treatments, it is still possible to evaluate the theories, which rationalize the conduct of “reparative” and conversion therapies. Firstly, they are at odds with the scientific position of the American Psychiatric Association which has maintained, since 1973, that homosexuality per se, is not a mental disorder. The theories of “reparative” therapists define homosexuality as either a developmental arrest, a severe form of psychopathology, or some combination of both (10-15). In recent years, noted practitioners of “reparative” therapy have openly integrated older psychoanalytic theories that pathologies homosexuality with traditional religious beliefs condemning homosexuality (16,17,18). The earliest scientific criticisms of the early theories and religious beliefs informing “reparative” or conversion therapies came primarily from sexology researchers (19-27). Later, criticisms emerged from psychoanalytic sources as well (28-39). There has also been an increasing body of religious thought arguing against traditional, biblical interpretations that condemn homosexuality and which underlie religious types of “reparative” therapy (40-46). Recommendations: 1. APA affirms its 1973 position that homosexuality per se is not a diagnosable mental disorder. Recent publicized efforts to repathologize homosexuality by claiming that it can be cured are often guided not by rigorous scientific or psychiatric research, but sometimes by religious and political forces opposed to full civil rights for gay men and lesbians. APA recommends that the APA respond quickly and appropriately as a scientific organization when claims that homosexuality is a curable illness are made by political or religious groups. 2. As a general principle, a therapist should not determine the goal of treatment either coercively or through subtle influence. Psychotherapeutic modalities to convert or “repair” homosexuality are based on developmental theories whose scientific validity is questionable. Furthermore, anecdotal reports of “cures” are counterbalanced by anecdotal claims of psychological harm. In the last four decades, “reparative” therapists have not produced any rigorous scientific research to substantiate their claims of cure. Until there is such research available, APA recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals’ sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum to first, do no harm. 3. The “reparative” therapy literature uses theories that make it difficult to formulate scientific selection criteria for their treatment modality. This literature not only ignores the impact of social stigma in motivating efforts to cure homosexuality; it is a literature that actively stigmatizes homosexuality as well. “Reparative” therapy literature also tends to overstate the treatment’s accomplishments while neglecting any potential risks to patients. APA encourages and supports research in the NIMH and the academic research community to further determines “reparative” therapy’s risks versus its benefits. References (1) National Association for Research and Treatment of Homosexuality, (1999), American Counseling Association Passes Resolution to Oppose Reparative Therapy. NARTH Website (http:// www.narth.com/docs/acaresolution.html). (2) Bayer, R. (1981), Homosexuality and American Psychiatry; The Politics of Diagnosis. New York: Basic Books. (3) Haldeman, D. (1991), Sexual orientation conversion therapy for gay men and lesbians: A scientific examination. In Homosexuality: Research Implications for Public Policy, ed. J. C. Gonsiorek & J. D. Weinrich. Newbury Park, CA: Sage Publications, pp. 149-161. (4) Haldeman, D. (1994), The practice and ethics of sexual orientation conversion therapy. J. of Consulting and Clin. Psychol., 62(2):221-227. (5) Brown, L. S. (1996), Ethical concerns with sexual minority patients. In: Textbook of Homosexuality and Mental Health. ed. R. Cabaj & T. Stein. Washington, D.C.: American Psychiatric Press, pp. 897-916. (6) Drescher, J. (1997), What needs changing? Some questions raised by reparative therapy practices. New York State Psychiatric Society Bulletin, 40(1):8-10. (7) Duberman, M. (1991), Cures: A Gay Man•s Odyssey. New York: Dutton. (8) White, M. (1994), Stranger at the Gate: To be Gay and Christian in America. New York: Simon & Schuster. (9) Isay, R. (1996), Becoming Gay: The Journey to Self-Acceptance. New York: Pantheon. (10) Freud, S. (1905), Three essays on the theory of sexuality. Standard Edition, 7:123-246. London: Hogarth Press, 1953. (11) Rado, S. (1940), A critical examination of the concept of bisexuality. Psychosomatic Medicine, 2:459-467. Reprinted in Sexual Inversion: The Multiple Roots of Homosexuality, ed. J. Marmor. New York: Basic Books, 1965, pp. 175-189. (12) Bieber, I., Dain, H., Dince, P., Drellich, M., Grand, H., Gundlach, R., Kremer, M., Rifkin, A., Wilbur, C., & Bieber T. (1962), Homosexuality: A Psychoanalytic Study. New York: Basic Books. (13) Socarides, C. (1968), The Overt Homosexual. New York: Grune & Stratton. This website shows alot more organizations that agree with the APA http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/facts.pdf Orientation & Youth A Primer for Principals, Educators & School Personnel A Publication Endorsed by: American Academy of Pediatrics American Counseling Association American Association of School Administrators American Federation of Teachers American Psychological Association American School Health Association Interfaith Alliance Foundation National Association of School Psychologists National Association of Social Workers National Education Association The most un-biased book I have ever read on transforming sexual orientation is by an ex-gay, married psychologist, Joe Dallas' "Desires In Conflict". You may not agree with the ex-gay movement but at least Joe is upfront and unbiased in his presentation; something that cannot be said for these "professional organizations". Thats super but unless they are trying to also find a way for straights to change. Then they are biased. As the webmaster posted the Bible also labels adultery a sin; a sin engaged in by at least 33% of the adult population; a sin whose Biblical punishment under the Law was death. We have not singled out the gay community for being worse than heterosexuals; we are taking a stance on a behavior the Bible labels a sin; a behavior not the people. God will judge people by what they do not for who they are. Your choice in interpretation of a really old book labels it a sin. Not God. |
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