i beleve in some punshments. but they shouldent be taken to such extreams.
there are other ways to punsh a child. grounding, takeing away money in payment, chores.
extreams can and have been fought in court, public spankingins in a mall, and bruseing have been found to be abusive. biblical pressident has been over riten by lawers who gotten fat off of family cases.
i am a case were there was no harsh punshments, no spankings, and i have turned out ok. so it is better to talk about it first before you reach for the rod.