ArchivedWhy do you oppose gay marriage?Just want to take the (rather rare) opportunity to say: I agree. Unless I misunderstand the question, it answers itself. Action = cause, reaction = effect. Yes? And yes, you have the first step, observation... but that's it. Your hypothesis seems to be that a decline in sexual morality will logically lead to the decline and fall of society, but you've offered no explanation as to how or why. Personally, I can see several non-causal explanations that seem more plausible, so no, I'm not going to be waiting for the anthropologists to sign off on the cultural safety of gay marriage. For one thing, they've got no basis to work from -- as you pointed out earlier, gay marriage doesn't exist in recorded history. I suspect we are already as tolerant of homosexuality (if not more so) than any of your fallen cultures were. Only because it doesn't make any sense. And yes, it's valid in the "I have the right to do X for reason Y" sense... because as long as you have the right to do X, Y doesn't really enter the equation. You have the right to vote for George W. Bush in 2004 because the voices in your head tell you to, if it comes to that. I've never argued against anyone's right to vote, speak, or otherwise campaign against (what I believe are) my rights. I don't think I've so much as asked you not to. Just looking for "why"... and endlessly picking apart the answers I get, because I think they're bad reasons. Which is why most people who answered exercised their right to ignore me shortly thereafter. That's quite a lot of "however." As I understand it, there must be an implied threat for something to cross the line of "hate speech." That said, I'm ambivalent about hate crime legislation in the first place. And that's fine... up until the point where you try to restrict the rights of others, because it may diminish the number of people seeking your truth. I don't know. How suicides are the result of people feeling they must change, for internal reasons reinforced by external "support," but who find that they cannot? I don't know that, either. But I do know a gay man who tried to kill himself after being in Exodus. His mentor in the program succeeded. Another friend of his from the program, who ended up married with kids, kept his cancer diagnosis a secret until it was too late for treatment. I'm not convinced that ex-gay minstries help more people than they harm. If the suicide rate of gay teens is disproportionately high compared to that of straight teens, then I don't think we should dismiss efforts to find out why as "pointing fingers." We can assume the straight teens aren't killing themselves because of their orientation. Some of the gay kids probably are. And that is a tragedy that can be addressed on more than an individual basis. |
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