So Loki, with a little science, a little theology and no common sense and prudence one prove whatever he wants. I wonder if you are also critical of Bible as you are critcal of Qur'an. I liked the milk and chese analogy.
Acctually i am as critical too the bible as well as to the quran. I believe it could discribe certain truthfull observations of the world but not in a scientific way. And i unlike muslims would never use vague scientific references in the bible as a means of proving it's divinity. Just as i have been proving you right now, this would make a weak case. Embryology was known in the Uphinashad the oldest... therefore the Uphinashad must be of Brahman/God i guess?
Anyways, you should listen to brother H2O's warning. You base your claims on translations, which reflect translators' own comments and interpolations.
English isn't my main language, yet you understand what i say in english. Why is a quran incapable of translation without perverting or corrupting it, in such a way. That it's fully untruth concerning science. I raise my doubts with such. Even Aristotles, Hippocrates, Galen and such are open for translations... yet the all powerfull word of God can only be uttered in understanding only in arabic.
1) If the fluid nutfah can be interpreted as sperm, then the place of rest might be ovum, as the sperm is firmly fixed into the ovum.
can be? might be?
is interpretating stuff to your benefit... called science now?
2) H2O translated alaqah as something that clings. It sounds so true since alaqah is also translated as leech in some translations. So technically I believe alaqah is blastocyst.
acctually it should be translated in leech only... Dr. Moore who came up with this scientific myth, gave it the 'leech-like structure' translation.
4) Bones in the lump. This might be about formation of notocord or the associated tubular structure. Or in any case bulk of organs came after formation of bones. You mix differentiation with formation of organs. See below.
again: "might be", "or"... that surah isn't very clear is it, bur rather vague.
5) Flesh around bones. This suggests formation of essential organs.
aarghh, stop suggesting... the verse should speak for itself if it was really scientific!!!
6) Another creation. This I think is when the material is breathed upon a soul.
So abortion is allowed in the islam, before this stage?
1) Conception usually takes place in the Fallopian tube. A single sperm penetrates the mother's egg cell, and the resulting cell is called a zygote.
The zygote spends the next few days traveling down the Fallopian tube and divides to form a ball of cells. Further cell division creates an inner group of cells with an outer shell. This stage is called a "blastocyst". The inner group of cells will become the embryo, while the outer group of cells will become the membranes that nourish and protect it.
The blastocyst reaches the uterus at roughly the fifth day, and implants into the uterine wall on about day six. At this point in the mother's menstrual cycle, the endometrium (lining of the uterus) has grown and is ready to support a fetus. The blastocyst adheres tightly to the endometrium, where it receives nourishment via the mother's bloodstream.
The cells of the embryo now multiply and begin to take on specific functions. This process is called differentiation, which produces the varied cell types that make up a human being (such as blood cells, kidney cells, and nerve cells).
(There's a timeline in the page. Bones start to form in week 4-5, and it is not until the week 7 that all essential organs have at least begun to form)
This mentions alot of stuff that is excluded in the quran, where does all what is said in here comparable in utmost detail to that verse in the surah?
2) The cells of the blastocyst that are destined to be fetus have already developed three different types of cells, ectoderm (the back of the fetus), endoderm (the front of the fetus), and mesoderm (the remainder).
The very first structure associated with an actual embryo is something called "the primitive streak" ...
Extending from the primitive steak is the notocord, which is the earliest structure of support for the embryo. It's what makes us vertebrates within the entire animal world. It is still in you and me as material in the discs between the vertebrae of our backbones, those discs that "slip" from time to time in the less fortunate among us. ... A lengthwise structure of ectoderm develops and its two edges of this long groove curl toward each other and finally close, creating a tube that will run the length of the fetus. It is associated with the notocord, and from it will develop the brain and spinal cord.
Mesoderm, flanking this tube on either side, will surround it as serial bones (or the vertebrae that make up the backbone), as well as the skull around the brain. Also important is a space that develops within the mesoderm, a cavity called the "coelum." This cavity, a space lined by the actively dividing cells which surround it, is very important, for it establishes your future baby as a tubular structure. A tubular structure, any physics teacher will tell you, will have its empty space within distorted when the tube itself is twisted. This is exactly what happens when different cells of the tube start growing and reproducing at differing rates. This is, thankfully, to our benefit, because as this tubular core splits and portions of it pinch off in ways consistent with the differing rates of growth outside of it, it allows us to have the digestive tract, central nervous system, cardiovascular system; and other quite necessary systems develop from their cell lines in positions that make us work as a correctly operating human machine.
Again, nice scientific explenation, but what has it to do with the Surah?
Does the quran add unto science, or does science need to confirm the quran? what prevails above the other?