Trinity DebateJesus as the embodied pre-existent SonJohn 8:24 That is why I told you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." I believe in one God. "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone! God is our only God. What Christ said corresponded with Deut. 6:4. God is our only God. God is a Revelation. The Father is God, and the revelation shows that the Son and Spirit are of the same substance and being as the Father. John 17:5 Now glorify me, Father, with you, with the glory that I had with you before the world began. The state of Glory that Jesus was in before all was is the same as that when He returned. A Godly glory. The Father gave his name to His Son, Jesus called Himself "I AM". Do you see that the Son, in essence, completes the Father? The Father and Son are so intimately connected that the Trinity doesn't seem so odd. Verse five states that the Lord, faith, baptism, God, and Father are the same thing. And this is overall, through all, and in all. I believe Paul is speaking of the mystery of the Church and the calling of the Spirit in all of us. The man Jesus Christ! The man Jesus was a divine being before He came into this world. Do you have evidence that very early Christians didn't believe Jesus was preexistent? I have only used scripure to support the belief, no imported Greek commentary or anything else. Jesus is before all things, and through Him all things were made. He came in human likeness and appearance. He came from a state of Glory before the world began which He went back to after all was completed. To say this merits no support from scripture is an unconvincing statment to a man who only relied on scripture and who has a belief that Christians always had. |
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