Christian/Muslim ThreadsContradictions in the QuranLoki wrote:" six months after the passing of his father Ramses II, Merenptah was brutally assassinated. His House valiantly fought on, but eventually succumbed to the combined forces of those determined to satisfy their own typecasting and take the throne for themselves...
... Examination of Menerptah's mummy revealed multiple traumas to the head, one to the clavicle on the right side, a four-inch hole in the abdomen, and a shattered right forearm."
-- http://www.domainofman.com/book/chap-32.html
We have a problem here Loki. When since the source you quoted above voids out or has weight over the words of someone whom physically examined the body of Merneptah along with other scientist ?
Your source contradicts some elite sources even the same source Wiki you used in support of your arguement :
He died a natural death in high age. He was succeeded by his son Amenmesse, possibly a son of queen Takhat. His tomb is number KV8 in the Valley of the Kings, but his mummy was not found within this tomb. In 1898 it was discovered along with 18 others in the mummy cache within the tomb of Amenhotep II (KV35).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah
He died after a reign of 9 years and was buried in a tomb (KV8) that was even open in antiquity - it was visited by ancient Greeks! Naturally, the contents were entirely destroyed long ago, although Merneptah's mummy was eventually found in the tomb of Amenhotep II by Victor Loret in 1898.
http://www.secker.fsbusiness.co.uk/kmerneptah.htm
By the time Ramesses II died, he had apparently outlived twelve of his sons. His 13th son, Merenptah ascended the throne of Egypt. Merenptah was old himself by this time, probably nearly sixty years old, and his reign was rather dull, as well as short lived (perhaps only nine or ten years) in comparison with that of his father's reign. According to the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, he ruled from 1213 until 1203 BC.
http://www.crystalinks.com/dynasty19a.html
Your source is obsolete as to the date of his rule and his death. I have one more source to show you coming directly from the words of a Christian whom supports his arguements with Acheologist and Scripture of your Bible to determine which Pharaoh its was that was drowned.
For a very long time Merneptah, the successor to Ramesses II, was held to be the Pharaoh of the Exodus. Maspero, the famous Egyptologist of the beginning of this century did, after all, write in his Visitor's Guide to the Cairo Museum (Guide du visiteur du Musée du Caire), 1900, that Merneptah "was probably, according to the Alexandrian tradition, the Pharaoh of the Exodus who is said to have perished in the Red Sea." I have been unable to find the documents on which Maspero based this assertion, but the eminence of this commentator requires us to attach the greatest importance to what he claims.
http://www.masmn.org/documents/Books/Ma ... ce/069.htm
This christian researcher concluding with the following :
The preceding data alone are enough to establish the following:
a) There can be no question of the Exodus before a 'Ramesses' had come to the throne in Egypt (11 Kings of Egypt had this name).
b) Moses was born during the reign of the Pharaoh who built the cities of Ramesses and Pithom, i.e. Ramesses II.
c) When Moses was in Midian, the reigning Pharaoh (i.e. Ramesses II) died. The continuation of Moses's story took place during the reign of Ramesses II's successor, Merneptah..............
.....It is known that Ramesses II reigned for 67 years (1301-1235 B.C. according to Drioton and Vandier's chronology, 1290-1224 B.C. according to Rowton). For Merneptah, his successor, the Egyptologists are unable, however, to provide the exact dates of his reign. Nevertheless, it lasted for at least ten years because, as Father de Vaux points out, documents bear witness to the tenth year of his reign. Drioton and Vandier give two possibilities for Merneptah: either a ten-year reign, 1234-1224 B.C., or a twenty-year reign 1224-1204 B.C. Egyptologists have no precise indications whatsoever on how Merneptah's reign came to an end: all that can be said is that after his death, Egypt went through a period of serious internal upheavals lasting nearly 25 years.
Even though the chronological data on these reigns are not very precise, there was no other period during the New Kingdom concordant with the Biblical narration when two successive reigns (apart from Ramesses II-Merneptah) amounted to or surpassed eighty years. The Biblical data concerning Moses's age when he undertook the liberation of his brothers can only come from a time during the successive reigns of Ramesses II and Merneptah [ The period spanning the two reigns Sethos I-Ramesses II, which is said to have lasted roughly eighty years, is out of the question: Sethos I's reign-which was too short for this-does not square with the very long stay in Midian which Moses made as an adult and which took place during the reign of the first of the two Pharaohs he was to know.]. All the evidence points towards the fact that Moses was born at the beginning of Ramesses II's reign, was living in Midian when Ramesses II died after a sixty-seven year reign, and subsequently became the spokesman for the cause of the Hebrews living in Egypt to Merneptah, Ramesses II's son and successor. This episode may have happened in the second half of Merneptah's reign, assuming he reigned twenty years or nearly twenty years. Rowton believes the supposition to be quite feasible. Moses would then have led the Exodus at the end of Merneptah's reign. It could hardly have been otherwise because both the Bible and the Qur'an tell us that Pharaoh perished during the pursuit of the Hebrews leaving the country.
http://www.masmn.org/documents/Books/Ma ... ce/069.htm
I am quoting his work cause he quotes elite Egyptologists and Archeologists. Go back and read the entire research and then come back with your response, the same I would recommend for our readers.
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