Christian/Muslim ThreadsWhy does Allah use the word We to refer to HimseH20 Wrote: A false hadith? It has been included as one of the most authentic, what you on about? The hadiths were already arranged, some where rejected some were accepted, the hadith I happened to Quote was accepted as authentic. al-Bukhari is regarded as the second holiest book in Sunni Islam and you reject it? Have you just noticed the contradictions in your hadiths? Man you got to wake up, You say I am the camatose? H20 Wrote: When I said WE, I ment me and the fellow spectators. H20 Wrote: You cant be serious? or do you mean me? yes I am serious! That fact is that state that you speak of is a secular state, respect it and its laws if you wish to live in it. H20 Wrote: Then you admit Islam can be compared to the brutal pagan Romans? H20 Wrote:
When I said come, I was speaking in general. I do know there are procedures, at least you have the ability to build one even though it takes you time. Most Islamic countrys like Egypt there is no hope in even trying to ask the goverment to allow you to build a new church. H20 Wrote: Here in the UK its much more easier to build mosques and even in the whole of Europe. You might get delayed but at the end of the day you still have that chance, the Christians in Egypt have no such thing. H20 Wrote: those people on the Jerry Springer show are FREE to act in anyway they desire, at the end of the day God is going to judge them. What good is it to FORCE people to be what they are not? and do what they do not want to do? For example in Iran women must cover there heads, what is the point of them doing this if its not from the heart? By the way this law also applies to all non muslims! What happened in Afghanistan after they were freed? Most of the women removed the "body bags" they where FORCED to wear. H20 Wrote: Forgive me for not shedding a tear for you muslims. Instead I will shed a tear for those Sudanese Christians that are getting butchered and those Christians in Indonesia and throughout the world. Being persecuted for what? and by whom? Persecuted by the muslims for being Christians. Who is blowing up Churches in Iraq today? On the other hand I can understand why people dislike you and your muslim brothers, you have bought another level of terror into this world and hate. If 9/11 wasnt enough to make people hate you then I dont know what would be. H20 Wrote: Yeah you said it. France asked Jews to remove there religious symbols, Christians the same and asked Muslim women to remove the hijab. Now why is it that France recived Terror threats? and by whom and why? It recived terror threats by muslims saying they would attack France if it carried out such a law on the hijab. I dont see Jews or Christians acting in the same way. Have those muslims forgotten France's policy regarding Iraq? What about Theo van Gogh who was stabbed and shot by a muslim? Just becuase of a film that spoke against Islam regarding the treatment of women. These muslims are more animalish then those immoral people on Jerry Springer, dont you think? H20 Wrote: Can you build mosques now? YES! can you build chruches in Egypt or even fix them? NO! there isn't even one church in Saudi arabia to this day, not one. Christians worshipping at home in saudi Arabia are arressted if caught. H20 Wrote: You have failed to prove that the Quran is complete. H20 Wrote: No, I actually mean 99% of muslims, not some. Christians can look back to the dead sea scrolls etc... Muslims can? oh I forgot they rememberd the Quran by heart. I hope they didnt have a memory like Mohammed who forgot parts of surahs. H20 Wrote: I am not the one that assembled the hadiths into a book, so do not ask me why I picked this certain hadith, ask whoever put it in the book in the first place. I can get you random contradictions and things that are out of this world from the hadiths. Let me ask you the same question; Why have you favoured the ones that are opposite? Because without the Quran your deen (religion) is nothing, and you know this. Obviously you shall disagree, even though its from your books, not ours. H20 Wrote: In one of the six most authentic Hadith books by Ibne Maja we find a parable told by Hazrat AyshaR, in which she says: "The aa'yaa on rape and nursing of babies were lying in book form, that was kept in the patio. When the Holy Messenger passed away, we became busy in his funeral. During this time, our domesticated pet goat ate the manuscript of these two aa'yaa. And so these aa'yaa were wasted." It seems the part the goat ate from the Quran was the only "copy". H20 Wrote: Do you actually read what you type? you are admitting that your hadiths are useless, a bunch of contradictions. I am using hadiths to support my view that the Quran is incomplete and you are choosing to ignore these hadiths and reject them simply because you cannot accept that your Quran is not all present. Good question! How do YOU know which is right? YOU are the muslim not me, ethier way it has no affect on me, as peservation does not necessarily imply truth. Peace |
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