Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readFour are mentioned, but there could be more. There were 2 girls and 2 boys. Well in Islam, eating pork is forbidden, and it's not just because it makes you sick. Also, if you're saying the ruling is just because it makes you sick, why wasn't it suggested that someone should eat "well cooked and well preserved or fresh" pig, instead of an absolute ban on it? That SHOULD be the case. Ok I'll check it out if you have some links. Yeah that's because in reality Jesus (pbuh) taught the same things as Moses (pbuh). But today it is impossible to say that someone believes in everything that Judaism preaches and EVERYTHING that Christianity preaches. A Messianic Jew is not a Christian-Jewish hybrid. Sure there is, what would change about the ruling? A woman's property is her own unless she is willing to give it to her family. However, a man's property MUST be used to provide for his family, he can't choose to keep it to himself even if he wanted to. So disprove an evidence he brings. No, we are similar because God created us similar in some respects, not because we evolved from them. But in order to believe that, you disbelieve in the literalness of the Adam and Eve story. Liberate Well it turns out that non-Muslims ARE permitted in Mosques, I just saw some today. They just aren't permitted in the one around the Kaabaa. So there's your answer regarding the Shariah. The four sacred months were delineated by God, and there can be no battle in those months. The real question you should be asking is what did the pagans used to do in those months and why everything the pagans do is rejected and not retained in the Sunnah. Except you don't respect any pagan festivals. I mean wow, that's like me saying that the Germanic tribes used December as the month to celebrate the evergreen tree and so they've pretty much monopolized that month and Christians can no longer use it to celebrate Christmas. Yeah that is a good question. Many commentators have conjectured about why but the answer is that this is how it was revealed, without a prefix of bismillah. Haha, ok paste them here. I seriously think there is something wrong in your deduction when you take a look at people who died over reciting the Qur'an but believe they were cool with losing some of it. You remind me of the disbelievers who, just because they don't know where or what Jesus (pbuh) was or did in his early life, start conjecturing things that are COMPLETELY against his nature. They didn't contradict what I said, they just said I was wrong about the genociding. And yes, since I get my information FROM scholars, they completely OWNED me. Rightfully owed. I'm sorry about saying what I said and then posting the link. Next time I'll wait till I am sure of the accuracy of my claim before I paste a link to support it. Except I wasn't completely contradicted, my opinion was extreme. If you post a "Jesus is not the Messiah" link, I wouldn't say "Oh YES! You've been EXPOSED!" I'd know it was a mistake. Plus there's a difference between MANY vs SOME Muslims were tortured and abused and Jesus is/is not the Messiah. Don't drown your deduction skills with extreme analogies like that. Yeah and would have AGREED WITH IT ANYWAY. Why? My opinion is IN the links. Obviously when the scholars brought proof and are more knowledgeable than me, I'm not going to be stubborn and hold on to my extreme opinion. Likewise I'd expect the same from you. Whether or not you read the links is really up to you, I'm still going to post them. Sometimes, and sometimes they are from yours. And which questions have I not been able to answer? I wasn't referring to THAT pasting. Ok you know what, you're right, from now on I will start pasting the contents of the links, it's not a big deal. I didn't lie and on the contrary I WANT to give you the most accurate account of Islam possible so that if you do reject it it will be for what it is. It's not in my hands at all whether you accept Islam or not, that's why it's not at all necessary to lie about it. What I made was an honest mistake and now I'm openly correcting it. Actually no. So these particular tribes didn't at all conspire with the pagans to murder the Prophet or attack the Muslims is what you're saying? That's a good question. I'll ask about this tomorrow and reply tomorrow night. Yes, combat or being sieged as part of combat. I did read the story. You have a different sexualized account of every other story in Islam. And the Prophet never raped anyone because rape is punishable by death in Islam. That's seriously a new one. Yeah don't worry I gave my questions about Al-Suyuti to a scholar he's getting the books. As for your question about captives: First of all, everything about captives can only occur in the presence of an Islamic state with a Khalifa, and the khalifa is the one who authorizes whether during any given battle captives may be taken. Second of all, captives may only be taken from persons on the battle field, fighters or those helping the fighters. If a married woman is fighting or aiding others fight in a war against Islam, it is permissible for her to be a captive whether her husband dies in battle or not. Man, the text itself in the Seerah, what do you call that? Where did it come from? Also, there are hadiths that mention mass starvation because of the boycott, but as the understanding islam team says, these are of questionable authenticity and may very well have been blown out of proportion. What does remain true, though, is that Banu Hashem DID boycott the Muslims (though not all tribes did) and that Muslims like Belal and other slaves WERE tortured, and that there was an earlier migration to Abysinnia to evade abuse, unless in you claim that Muslims just decided to leave for no reason. There's a difference between lying and having thoroughly believed what I said to be true. I based what I knew on the hadiths that said for example that the muslims were eating the leaves off of trees, but apparently their authenticity is questionable. So yes, I maintain my innocence about that. Something THAT extreme would obviously show you had made a mistake. Also, if you had a reliable reason for believe that Jesus (pbuh) WAS the Messiah, and that's what you based it on, you're opinion was just misguided. I wouldn't question your integrity or claim you had purposely tried to lie to me. Ok man, the next time a fly lands in your soup, dunk it in and remove it with your spoon then report back to me. You can make fun of the hadith or any Qur'anic injunction for that matter, I don't see what you get out of it, but you and believer do have an infatuation with the saying "would God say that?!". If you decided what God would and wouldn't say before He says it, you should make up your own religion and follow it. Guess what, that would PERFECTLY match your views. Ok here we go, let's take a look at each one: [For the love of God whose wife would take offence at her husband for drinking honey, unless of course it was the scent of another woman on you !!] Offense wasn't being taken at the smell of honey. [ note this very important] thanks [ Oh remember her Zaid's (Mohammed's adopeted son} wife now Mohammed's] incidents [ Bear this in mind Humble when you said it culminated to getting jealous with each other], ok [ this becomes very interesting this is the Bukhari hadith from vol 3 number 648 that mentions Maria] Really? Because they didn't give a reference to which one they were talking about, how do you figure? [ask yourself why?], ok [ RIGHT HERE is where your tafsir further insults the intelligence of it's readers and deviates from the hadith, at this stage in the hadith this is what the hadith says:"Bukhari vol 3 648 "...The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him (for his oath that he would not approach Maria And here is where you finally say that the tafsir is trying to mislead us because it deviates from your account. Good eye, man.
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Nice one, bro, very nice. Nowhere is jealousy mentioned, then you read that it is midway in your proof, then you say "well, it's mentioned but, it doesn't make any sense! Why would a wife be jealous that her husband was spending time with another wife, this just goes completely over my head"
Hold on there bro, explain to me how it can't be Zaynab?
Siblings get jealous of their siblings if their parents spend time with them, even if the time they spend is equal. That's the nature of jealousy. The fact that there exists a polygamous marriage doesn't mean that jealousy is impossible. Muster your deductive powers to realize why that doesn't necessarily have to be true. Also the oath is not that he slept with another wife, it is this: (I will not drink it anymore, I have taken an oath to that. Therefore, do not inform anybody about it.) Don't tell anyone I took an oath preventing myself what is lawful for me otherwise.
Yes, I said it literally meant that he had eaten the honey because he got it from the other wife who is known to have had honey and is known to have given the honey to him.
I didn't remove the bold from your quote. When I copy and paste a quoted passage, it doesn't copy the bolded parts, it just copies and then pastes pure text.
Do you mean Mariah Al Qubtiah? http://anwary-islam.com/women/pwife_maria.htm
Loving the conspiracy theories.
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Haha, this laughter is sincere bro. But let me guess, knowing you and Freud, does nervous laughter have any sexual connotation I haven't heard about? Some subconscious sexual conspiracy?
M-K-R Slyness, cunning, wiliness, craftiness, artfulness, subtlety, foxiness, shrewdness, astuteness, canniness, smartness, cleverness, resourcefulness
KH-D-3 To deceive, to fool, to delude, beguile, to circumvent, outwit, ploy, dodge, sleight
Bro, you start off ok every time, but then when you get near the end of the tafsir and you have nothing to back you up except for the doubts you place in your own brackets as your stepping stones, you open up a bracket and say "AND THIS REFERS TO HIS SECRET WIFE MARIAH! HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT!"
… After performing the `Asr prayer, he used to visit his wives, going close to them. So he went to Hafsah, daughter of `Umar, and stayed with her more than his usual stay. I (`A'ishah) became jealous and asked about that. It was said to me, `A woman of her family sent her a small vessel of honey as a gift, and she gave a drink to Allah's Messenger made from it.' The wives of the Prophet were all jealous for his affection … no comment even necessary after that, and those are quotes by the way
I hope you're learning a few things, I know believer is. Peace bros |
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