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The Rest of the New Testament
The gospels and the rest of the New Testament shows that Jesus' followers were taught that Jesus was God.
a) Jesus and the Father have the same nature (Philippians 2:5)
b) Both are rightfully worshipped (Hebrews 1:6)
c) Both rightfully called God (John 1:1; Heb 1:8,9)
d) Both are prayed to (Acts 7:7:59-60)
e) Everything in the world was created through Christ (John 1:3, 10, Colossians 1:16)
f) Everything is sustained through Christ (Col 1:17)
g) The fullness of deity is in Jesus (Colossians 1:19).
h) Jesus is called God in 2 Cor. 11:3 and Titus 2:13
i) Worshipped in Heaven in Revelation 5:8-9; 22:20
j) Prayed to Christ Acts 7:59
Rather, the gospels and the rest of the New Testament shows that Jesus' followers were taught ...
that Jesus was indeed the Messiah, the Son of the Living GOD, GOD's appointed agent and plenipotentiary
- The Greek text of Philippians 2:6 is more correctly rendered that Jesus did not grasp after equality with GOD
Unlike Adam [Gen 3:5]. Where Adam failed, Jesus succeeded. Where Adam sought to exalt himself, Jesus humbled himself.
As followers of Christ, we ought to have the same mind.
The expression 'form of GOD' is equiv. to 'image of GOD' [Gen 1:27]; i.e. Jesus the second man, the second Adam, being a man, he was indeed the ultimate 'image of GOD', the ultimate 'man'; he was the image that GOD had intended all men to be ... Jesus proved this by being in total submission to Almighty GOD, hence all his followers now need to be conformed to Jesus' image. [Rom 8:29]
- Both are rightfully worshipped (Hebrews 1:6)
Yes. GOD as GOD ALMIGHTY! Jesus as the King Messiah, the man whom Almighty GOD made both Christ and Lord of all; even angels therefore, have been made subject to him. [Acts 2:36, 10:36; 1 Pet 3:22, 1 Cor 15:27-28; Heb 2:5-9]
- John 1:1 is speaking about the word of God
Moses is also called 'God/elohim'. [Exo 7:1] So were the OT judges [Exo 21:6, 22:8-9] So your point is?
- Stephen is speaking to Jesus who he sees.
Stephen is not praying to him. He is invoking and calling upon Jesus whilst beholding him. There is a difference!.
Solely GOD the Father is prayed to throughout the scriptures, both OT & NT.
- Everything in the world was created by GOD Almighty. The new creation, the new heavens and earth are created by GOD through Christ.
John 1:3 is about GOD's spoken word (cp. Psalms 33:6,9)
Concerning John 1:10, Colossians 1:16 - For my comments on these, see
http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=3553&start=41
- Everything is sustained through Christ (Col 1:17)
Yep! That is his appointed position by Almighty GOD. However, it is GOD who sustains all things through Christ.
- Yep! GOD's fullness dwells in the man Christ Jesus. He may be 'full of GOD' however he is not GOD. Rather, Jesus is GOD's human temple.
Also, Paul prayed that ... (Eph 3:19) And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
- Jesus is called God in 2 Cor. 11:3 and Titus 2:13
He is???
(2 Cor 11:3) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Bit puzzled by this one.
However, the Greek text of Titus 2:13 reads rather:
(Titus 2:13) Looking for that blessed hope, and the appearing of the glory of the great God AND our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Compare (Mat 16:27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
(Luke 9:26) For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
See also Mark 8:38
- Revelation 5:8-9 ... Yep! Christ is due worship and honor as the Lamb of Almighty GOD.
(Rev 5:9) And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
- Check any bible. The word 'God' in Acts 7:59 is in italics i.e. it is NOT in the Greek text
Acts 7:59 actually reads ... And they stoned Stephen, calling upon and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
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