Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readI think you’re getting your terms confused because even Jews don't speak of the "Spirit" like that: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/faq122.html Also, notice the use of the term Spirit in the Qur'an: Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If God had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God Fulfilleth His plan. (Qur'an 2:253) Then will God say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.' (Qur'an 5:110) And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God-fearing. He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. (Qur'an 19:17-19) The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right. (Qur'an 78:38 ) Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by God's permission, on every errand: (Qur'an 97:4) I believe only what is found in Scripture. Scripture must come either directly from God or through the mouth of a Prophet. Bring one proof that the Bible has been transmitted directly from the words of Jesus (pbuh) and then we can have a meaningful discussion. It should be the minimum requirement of Scripture to be verifiably transmitted without a broken chain. It’s profound, because too often men change the word of God to appease their own philosophical whims, whether intentionally or unintentionally because they choose to conjecture when there is doubt. There were countless prophets and not all were mentioned in the Qur’an. Twenty five are mentioned in the Qur’an. Say: "We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to God do we bow our will (in Islam)." (Qur’an 3:84) We did aforetime send apostles before thee: of them there are some whose story We have related to thee, and some whose story We have not related to thee. It was not (possible) for any apostle to bring a sign except by the leave of God: but when the Command of God issued, the matter was decided in truth and justice, and there perished, there and then those who stood on Falsehoods. (Qur’an 40:78 ) And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our God and your God is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)." (Qur’an 29:46) I was referring to your argument that whatever precedes something must be what that something is based on. Corrupt men would not be corrupt if they only added stories, they would be corrupt if they added anything which God Himself had not revealed. Which is more damaging an addition, a story about one of the miracles of Jesus (pbuh) or a theological point which Jesus (pbuh) never mentioned? But in Judaism, David and Solomon are prophets. Do Christianity and Judaism differ between themselves on prophets? Peace |
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