ArchivedPeople Of The Book problem...OneGod peace to you Is it even remotely possible this may be the reason why Judaism, Christianity and Islam are worlds apart? Allah gave permission to Muhammmad, according to the Qur'an to talk to, learn from and confirm the message that had gone before, yet he kept himself to himself, and then when they disagreed with him, he accused them of altering or changing their own scriptures, the very scriptures that in other places in the Qur'an, he was confirming had been given to them by God? What if history had been different and Muhammad had gone to the Jews and tried to find comman ground. What if instead of attacking Mecca, he had worked with them? Muslims say the Qur'an states that anyone who calls Jesus God, is a pagan, yet the Qur'an states the rules of the dhimmi tax, are supposedly to provide the Christian and jew protection and the rules of marriage allow a Muslim man to marry a woman from Jewish or Christian heritage. It's obvious in the Qur'an that either there are contradictions or there are misunderstandings... on the one hand, Christians and Jews are the "People of the Book".. the revelation given to Moses and the Prophets before Muhammad. Muhammad is given the freedom to go and talk to the jews and find his message confirmed in their message, but this he doesn't do, instead, he declares the Qur'an the ONLY Word of God and himself it's only prophet. Anything in the Scriptures that doesn't agree with the Qur'an he declares corrupted or altered. Yet, His own God didn't say that when he gave him permission to go talk to them. It's a very interesting thought that the Qur'an speaks out loudly in Surah 3 according to my reading, that many of those who claim to follow Scripture are actually idolators. There is absolutely no indication in the English translation I am using here (the one you showed me on the net) that all People of the Book are corrupt. It seems to me, that Allah is discussing two groups here... 1.[3] Say, "O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD." If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters." 2. [3] Among them are those who twist their tongues to imitate the scripture, that you may think it is from the scripture, when it is not from the scripture, and they claim that it is from GOD, when it is not from GOD. Thus, they utter lies and attribute them to GOD, knowingly. Are you sure the real subject matter in these verses are not to completely discredit all people of the book.. and the book itself, but the way some people corrupt it by their misuse of it? if that is the case, many Christians would agree with you, as there are many examples where this is a reality? And if is now, it certainly was then, when Muhammad heard many of the Christian and jewish sects talking and saying things that was considered heresy then, and is heresy now... and if you search the history of the church at the time of muhammad, it's clear as to why he should have been very confused about such teachings as the trinity.. ie Christians worshipping three gods God, Mary and Jesus and especially in the background of his time. got to run, more later This is a very interesting discussion, thanks for persevering Carol |
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